Five lectures (1158, 1472, 1800, 1858, 4003), and it reverses M1075 by moving one punctuation mark. It reached Neville as somebody else's revelation and he says so, twice, and thanks her by name. Peggy dreamed she was on a movie lot; a man in the centre took on the appearance of John Wayne, greeted her by name, and said something she could not hear. She asked him to repeat it, he did but more softly, and she was too embarrassed to ask a third time - then on waking she remembered it: It is not Before Abraham was, I am; it is Before Abraham, was I am. Nothing came before him. Neville's defence of the reading is textual and correct: the original manuscripts had no punctuation marks at all, no verses, no paragraphs and no chapters until almost the sixteenth century, so the comma after was is a man-made choice and can be moved (4003 puts it bluntly - put the punctuation mark where it suits you best). And the consequence is what he wants: read the usual way, a man is claiming to have preceded Abraham and is thereby set apart from his hearers; read with the comma moved, there is no separation at all, only the statement that I AM is prior to everything, which is why he attaches Go unto my brothers, I am ascending unto my Father and your Father, unto my God and your God. He also reads the dream itself - John means Jehovah favoured; John Wayne is never cast in a secondary role and God is always the star and here sits in the director's chair; and he knew her by name, as he numbered all the stars and called them all by name. At 1158 it is short - tell her to change the comma. Distinct from M1075, which argues precedence from a son who calls him Father. PROVENANCE. Coined out of sequence at the request of the attach lane, which found the passages while attaching other motifs and reported that nothing in the catalogue held them. The canonical and the occurrences below were read in full before coining; the rest of the corpus-wide set was supplied by the lane and is attached, not read, so the occurrences here carry confidence 0.95 rather than 0.99.
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It is not “Before Abraham was, I am”; it is “Before Abraham, was I am.” Nothing came before him.
In all translations the comma is after “was.
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LectureWhen Spirit Truth Comes
In all translations the comma is after “was.” Now bear in mind that the original manuscripts from which all of our translations are made had no punctuation marks. These are all man made.
Span from: 99
to: 285
Passage revision:
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LectureWhen Spirit Truth Comes
I found myself on a movie lot, I seemed to be in the company of two others. In the center of the lot sat a man and I walked up to him and he seemed to take on the appearance of John Wayne.
Span from: 187
to: 375
Passage revision:
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LectureWhen Spirit Truth Comes
So let me repeat it if you haven’t a recorder. It is not “Before Abraham was, I am”; it is “Before Abraham, was I am.” Nothing came before him.
Span from: 1801
to: 1944
Passage revision:
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Span from: -1
to: -1
Passage revision:
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