SCOPE NOTE, added at the attach lane's request (PM 6032): this motif and its parent are the same verse, Job 42:5, and the parent holds the verse itself. The attach lane reports 47 rows in 36 lectures on the parent and found no lecture outside 1076 where THIS motif's distinctive reading appears. So the division is: a plain quotation or allusion to Job 42:5 belongs on the parent; only the reading below belongs here, and rows placed here for the bare verse should be moved. THE READING: Job's two ways of knowing are taken as the whole difference between inherited religion and experience. What a man has of God by hearing - from parents, from a church, from a book, however devoutly held - is the hearing of the ear, and it is not disparaged so much as dated: it is what everyone has before anything happens. What replaces it cannot be argued for or handed on, because it is sight. The turn is not from error to truth but from report to vision, which is why Job says it at the end and not at the beginning, and why Neville sets John 1:17 beside it - the law came by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ - grace being the thing nobody earns by the quality of the hearing. NOTE: the attach lane reports John 1:17 occurring in 21 lectures on its own and has kept it off this motif except at 1847 (Grace versus Law); that is the right call, and if the grace-and-truth material is ever coined it should be its own motif and not a wording here.
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Interpretive layers
Biblical typology
Experiential narrative
Collections
Lectures
Bible wordings
Job 42:5 | I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear, but now my eye sees thee
John 1:17 | The law came through Moses but grace and truth came through Jesus Christ
Own wordings
His religion, like our religion before the experience, was inherited
Occurrences
LectureThe Supreme Ideal
You heard it in some way; you either read it in scripture or you heard it. For all this is done to you. And you believed it; it was mixed with faith in you. But you didn’t see it, you only heard it.
Span from: 208
to: 406
Passage revision:
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LectureThe Supreme Ideal
I have heard of thee with the hearing of the ear, but now my eye sees thee.
Span from: 484
to: 559
Passage revision:
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LectureThe Book of Job
His religion, like our religion before the experience, was inherited. The oral tradition of the father, the oral tradition of the churches – and then I heard it.
Span from: 0
to: 161
Passage revision:
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LectureThe Book of Job
I didn’t know he existed. I believed it. I hope you did. “I heard of you with the hearing of the ear but now my eye sees.”
Span from: 89
to: 211
Passage revision:
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LectureThe Book of Job
Then he says: “I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear, but now my eye sees thee.”
Span from: 415
to: 504
Passage revision:
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LectureWe Have Found Him
When you hear the story of Job and Job [...] and cries out, “Oh, that I could find him.” He heard about him, but he hasn’t seen him
Span from: 271
to: 402
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