Told of a conversation in vision with Heine, the German poet, whom Neville says he never met in this world. Entering the world of those who have not descended this low, he found that when he talked to them they thought he was telling tall, tall stories: they could not believe he had just come from this world and would go back to it, because he came there consciously. Heine explained the vocabulary to him. They do not speak of earth as earth - they call it Woodland, and they do not believe that anyone who goes to Woodland could ever come back to what they call life. Neville's reading turns the condescension round: Woodland is the limit of contraction and the limit of opacity, so those who are here are in it, and it is a tremendous accomplishment to be here, because a man cannot turn round and hear this story and find God until he has come this far. You must reach the limit of contraction before you can hear the story of salvation. A child of the limit-of-opacity motif, which carries the doctrine; this one carries the name the other side has for it.