Neville's standing answer to the caller at the door. A lady came to his door and asked, don't you know only 144,000 will be saved? He points out first that the number is in Revelation and nowhere else in the sixty-six books, and then takes it apart by gematria: Aleph is one, Daleth is four, Mem is forty, and they spell Adam; one plus four plus four is nine, and no matter how many zeros you add it still comes to nine, which is the number of man. So 144,000 is the number of man, not a count of persons - there are three billion people living today, there may be six billion in twenty years, and 144,000 literally? No. Don't believe it. As you are lifted up you join the 144,000 and you do not expand it to 144,001; it is still 144,000, and when all of us join it we are still the 144,000. About six lectures. At 1223 he reaches the same number by twelve times twelve and says they are all within me; at 1188 the 144,000 represents humanity and the persons are only garments, with Blake's line that Satan cannot tell the garment from the man; at 1820 he tones 666 to nine in the same breath and joins the two numbers; and at 1966 the 144,000 are the heavenly chorus of the Caribbean vision (M191/M624), which is where the number stops being an argument and becomes an experience.