There are many others who think they do not dream. I had a secretary. His name was Buckner, Jack Buckner. And he swore he had never had a dream in his life. I would see him and hear him talk in his dreams. I had a three-room suite at the hotel, and Jack lived in one of my rooms. And I met him one night, and here he is, mumbling to himself, and he swore to me he had never had a dream in his life. Well, I knew he was dreaming, but he could never bring it back to the surface. So I said, Jack, and he answered, yes. I said, look, look what that cat is doing to you. He said, what, what, what, what? I said, look, the cat is on your head. The cat is messing on your head. And he started this way with his hands, and he started pulling his hair out. And he was throwing the cat off of his head. And when he woke up from this, which he said was no dream, I said, well, Jack, were you having a nightmare? He said, no, no, no, no. I said, did you have a dream? He said, no, no, no dream. And here is a man going through every suggestion that I made. I told him the cat was on his head, the cat was messing on his head, and all these things he actually lived and pulled the cat off the head. Now when he came back to this surface, he could not bring back an inkling of what he actually was experiencing below the surface mind. So if you don’t bring it back, don’t think you’re not dreaming.1115 ¶16