Date (happened)
- before 1969 (possible)qualifying source passages 535433; telling lecture nids 1270
- before 31 March 1967
Told / reported
16 September 1969(refuted)The New Idea Against the Old (nid 1270), telling 1270-1, told 1969-09-16- 31 March 1967 (doubtful)nid 1270 surviving delivery claim after refutation. All claims: 1958-3-31 refuted; 1967-3-31 doubtful; 1967-3-31 certain (preferred); 1969-9-16 refuted
Retelling later in the same lecture: he tried repeatedly to love an invisible God more than his mother and could not, and thought of his father as the fairest man he ever met; only when he saw that father and mother stood for visible causation did he understand, and it never lessened his love for them.