Date (happened)
- before 1969 (possible)qualifying source passages 540997; telling lecture nids 1490
- before 1964 (possible)qualifying source passages 545246; telling lecture nids 1812
- before 3 April 1964telling lecture nid 1812, certain delivery 1964-04-03
Told / reported
- 17 October 1969 (doubtful)Sorrow Produces Glorious End (nid 1490), telling 1490-8, told 1969-10-17
- 3 April 1964His Own Credentials (nid 1812), telling 1812-4, told 1964-04-03
Persons
From his own experience of trying to share his visions with able, Ph.D-holding men, they dismiss it as hallucination rather than confess ignorance.