Imagination, the Real Man

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21 June 1968
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Imagination, the Real Man

We teach that the eternal body of man is the Imagination, and that is God himself, the divine body Jesus; we are his members. The Bible is addressed to the real man and the real man, the immortal man that cannot die, is the Imagination. It is this with which we treat. I do not know if you saw or heard the eulogy that Ted Kennedy gave for his brother Robert. In that eulogy he quoted a passage from George Bernard Shaw. He may not have given credit…at a moment like that why quote any name? After all, the most original thought in the world is divine plagiarism, for all things proceed from God. No matter how original the thought seems to be, it comes out of the mind of God. So we will say, George Bernard Shaw…and Robert Kennedy made it part of his life…and this is it: “Some men see things as they are and say why? I dream of things that never were and say why not?” When we think that man who was actually by the grace of God born into the world and then claims that something is impossible to God? How dare man who found himself in this world—he doesn’t know how and why, but he finds himself here—and he dares to put a limit on the power that brought him into the world? That attitude of man where he claims something is impossible to God is the sin against the Holy Ghost. There is no other sin against the Holy Ghost but that man’s attitude towards anything in this world where something is impossible. So he gives to some state that tag “it’s impossible” and therefore he sins against the Holy Ghost.456 ¶1

Now tonight let me share with you…because I want you to go all out and in the most literal sense walk on water. A friend of mine a few weeks ago wrote saying that “In my vision I saw someone walking on water, and then someone said to me, ‘You will soon be doing that always.’ Water means you have accepted completely the fact that life is psychological, it’s imaginal…that the whole drama is in one’s Imagination. You don’t excuse yourself or anyone, you simply rearrange the structure of your mind, and then remain faithful to this rearranged structure…that’s walking on water. If you don’t, and you accept the “facts of life,” well then, you’re stepping down on the stone. There is the stone, the water and the wine in scripture.456 ¶2

Now comes another letter from a lady (and both are here tonight). She said, “I had a dream that happened this past week. I found myself standing on water and I was instructing others how to water ski. But I was standing on water. It didn’t seem strange or unnatural. Then suddenly I looked at my side and here is Ray Leigh, and he is looking, listening to the instruction. Then those that I instructed had ropes tied to them and attached to boats, and the boats took off at the most terrific speed. Ray Leigh and I are standing in the water, and moving as fast as they did, but we needed no rope, no boat. We’re just simply moving under our own power and it seemed so natural. Then I entertained the thought, ‘Did I instruct them correctly or did I do the right thing to instruct them?’ Ray Leigh read my mind and answered, ‘You instructed them perfectly, just right! You did the very right thing,’ and then I felt assured, and I woke. The next night I found myself in a huge room and the people had just left. Again I wondered, ‘Did I instruct them correctly?’ And again Ray Leigh appeared and he said, ‘You instructed them perfectly, just right. You did exactly what was right!’ Then I felt so completely assured, he spoke with such authority. And then I woke.”456 ¶3

Well, may I tell you, every dreamer is God, and God is a protean being. You could not have conjured anyone who actually lives and walks upon that water more than Ray Leigh. For I got this week two letters from him in which he told these stories. So when one actually lives by it…you who are in the Truth who are actually moving forward towards birth or beyond birth and you conjure him, well all right, you are conjuring one who lives by it.456 ¶4

In his letter he said, “There is a woman in my office and we all love her, a sweet, sweet lady. She gave us this long, long harangue about the absence of decent men in this world who are eligible for marriage and such an enormous number of riffraff, just jerks. So when I heard her complain, I simply revised what she said, and I heard her say that she met the most marvelous man whom she’s dating.” He kept on, painted a wonderful word picture about what he did. He said, “I did it twice that day. On my way home on the freeway I did it and I did it when I was home…that’s about six weeks ago. Two weeks ago, she came into the office and was very, very glum…into my office. It reminded me and so I did it again.” Now he said, “Yesterday, she spent twenty minutes with me painting the most marvelous word picture of this man. He must be terrific from what she is saying, how he is dating her…the most marvelous being ever; and she paints the most wonderful word picture of this one who is not a riffraff, just in her eyes a perfect, perfect gentleman who is dating her many, many times, and she is simply walking in ecstasy.” Well, that is one. He did not accept her tirade against all humanity.456 ¶5

Now he said, “My associate…I promised him to write a certain news review of a client of his. So I gathered all the material necessary, made a little research of all the things necessary about this client, put it in a folder, and left it on my desk piled high with all the things I had to do. So the days went on and the days went on and I didn’t get to it. Then I heard him on the phone talking to the client, and then he said to me, ‘My client wants to see me next Monday at nine o’clock in the morning in his office.’ I knew now this is it. This is Friday.” So he said, “What would have taken me hours and possibly days to have written, I simply sat down quietly and in my Imagination I saw that it was five o’clock and that he had read what I’d given him, and that he said to me, ‘Just fine, it’s just fine!’ Having done that in my mind’s eye and satisfied myself with that as an end result, I then took the folder, took these things out and they seemed to pop out by impulse. I wrote four typed pages, uh, four pages in type, and everything seemed to fit. Then I put it on his desk. At five o’clock he’s going home now for the weekend, he stops at my office, my door, and he said to me ‘It is just fine!’ I said, ‘Give it back to me. I will read it again and satisfy myself that it is really just fine, and I’ll meet you in the office of your client on Monday morning at nine.’ I took it and re-read it several times. On the third re-reading I thought one little phrase I could put it more into his language than my language, and so I simply changed only one as I retyped the four pages for him.” Then he gave me others, one after the other.456 ¶6

But to come back to this lady who walked on water and saw Ray Leigh. Now she does not know him in the true sense of the word, but she knows him only from here and here he appears. Well, she could not have conjured anyone who lives by it more than he does. He actually walks upon that water, because when you actually believe imagining creates reality then there is no fiction. How can there be fiction when imagining creates reality? So you hear something and you don’t like what you’ve heard, well, you know somewhere back in time it was imagined or it couldn’t happen. Well now, I can revise it and stop it just where it is, change it completely; and go back and rewrite the script. You take a script and write it…you don’t like what you see therefore you rewrite it until you like exactly what you see.456 ¶7

Now he said, “Certain things in my life I’m not completely satisfied, not satisfied, I don’t quite understand them.” Now he said, “I had a…this past Sunday really…I am in the yard with my wife and my younger son, and we are planting summer flowers to replace the dead ones of the winter. Suddenly I look at my wife, I look at my son, and I am seeing and hearing in detail, word for word, scene for scene, what I had for a night dream back in the deep of winter. I remember what I had when I woke that morning, but I said to myself, in winter would I be planting these flowers? So I dropped it. But now here it comes into being in an actual way. So I don’t quite understand the relationship between a night dream which I did not control, and something happening six months later when these summer flowers would have to be planted.”456 ¶8

May I tell him and tell all, everything in this world, every event in this world, contains within itself the capacity for symbolic significance. Although it came to pass, it contains more than that; it came to pass literally. And in scripture what I tell you accept my precepts literally, for you are going to actually experience them literally. But they contain still a far deeper significance, something beyond the literal experience. So here, he planted the summer flowers. He’s planted them. He saw it in the deep, when nothing grows, and he was planting when nothing grows. He planted seeds and he’s going to harvest them in the not distant future; not only in the world of Caesar but in the world of the Spirit. All these things are coming into his world because of this.456 ¶9

Then he said, “I told you a story of a man who was bawled out unmercifully by his bosses. I heard the story and I revised it, and I heard him being praised by his bosses in the immediate present. They praised him beyond measure instead of firing him as they had threatened to do.” Now, he said, “The man could not get over that bawling out and so he decided to quit…but he has no money, no backlog, none whatsoever. So he gave them a notice. Then he said, ‘I will take off just simply one week, a leave of absence.’ The first week he got no job. There was no job, but I heard him with a marvelous job with an increase of salary. Yesterday, he said to me, ‘My job terminates now, but on Monday I start on a new job with twenty-five percent more than I received on the present job.’” There was not one day lost in salary and he starts on a new job at a twenty-five percent increase.456 ¶10

So my dear, that you should conjure him…being a protean being that you are because you’re God…he is walking on water. When he hears anything he simply revises it; if it doesn’t please him, he revises it. So he is the perfect symbol that you should have conjured. So I could tell you all these stories about those who are actually walking on the water, bringing it from the depths of their soul at night…how they bring it into the surface. If they don’t see it in the immediate present, they know what they did. It will come whether they recognize their harvest or not.456 ¶11

So do not sin against the Holy Ghost and say that something is not possible to God, and God is your own wonderful human Imagination. Nothing is impossible to God, nothing! Can someone tell you something that you can’t imagine? They can’t. You may deny that it’s true or possible, but they can’t tell you anything in this world if they speak your language. If I speak in a tongue that is not your tongue, it’s all nonsense. As Paul said, “I’d rather speak five words with understanding than 10,000 words that cannot be understood.” So don’t bring me Latin and Greek and all the foreign tongues, tell me in a simple, simple way what you really want me to hear. So tell me simply. If you can tell it to me simply, don’t tell me I do not have the capacity to follow you if you use my language. So you tell me anything and I can follow you. There is not a thing that a man cannot follow in his Imagination, so all things are possible to Imagination. But I may not believe that they are really possible. I say they are possible, but I may say they are not possible, it’s incredible, well then, I put the stops…I’m sinning against the Holy Ghost.456 ¶12

I’ll give you one outstanding case here tonight. If I told any biologist, any surgeon, any doctor, anyone familiar with the human body and how it works, that Benny is the father of the blondest, blue-eyed boy that ever walked the face of this earth and his name is David; and David is God’s only begotten son and that Benny is his father, actually his father—this is not some foster father, he didn’t adopt him, he is actually Benny’s son; well now, take the entire world and let me ask Benny to come forward to be examined by them, that if he had a wife who was the blondest creature in this world, they could not together produce David, they couldn’t, and he, without any woman, he is the father of David. Now, isn’t that incredible! Yet I tell you that is true. It is true beyond the wildest dream of man. So I have no limitations on the power of God. When I tell this story, they will say, “Well, tell me, who is David?” Just as you find him described in the Book of Samuel, just like that—ruddy, beautiful eyes, fair—just as he’s described in the Book of Samuel .456 ¶13

Well then, “certain races would be excluded.” I said, “You are judging from appearances.” No race is excluded, because no one here in this world is lifted up as far as the body goes. It’s something entirely different…something in us that is raised by the descent of the seed of God. Certainly it is not exalting this body, this racial body whether it be Caucasian, Negro, Oriental…it is not the body. It’s something in us that when that seed descends, planted into us, which is Christ, and that union between that descending fire-seed and that that is only an animated being, not a life-giving Spirit; but that union then lifts us into a supernatural birth, beyond the wildest dream of man. That being that is lifted up into a supernatural birth becomes the Father of David. So it hasn’t a thing to do with the pigment of the skin or any racial being or any age group or anything.456 ¶14

But tonight, I want to bring it down to this level of using your Imagination for everything that is lovely and loving in this world, I don’t care what it is. Your own wonderful human Imagination is God: That is the divine body that the world calls Jesus. Because you can imagine and I can imagine and we imagine, we are members of the one body, this divine body that is the Lord Jesus Christ. And so all things are possible to him; there’s not a thing impossible. So what can you imagine?—imagine anything in this world, I don’t care what it is. And experiment.456 ¶15

Faith is an experiment which ends as an experience. But an experiment comes first. So I tell you, all things that you desire, believe that you’ve received them, and you will . That’s a challenge. I challenge you to experiment. Do you believe me? “Well, I trust you, I don’t think you would lie to me, so I would say yes, I believe you.” Then that is a measure of faith. But now it depends upon your experiment. Now, you have a desire, desire something. So I say an experiment comes first. Faith is an experiment which ends as an experience, just as in the case of Ray Leigh.456 ¶16

She has no boyfriend, riffraff, numberless riffraff who try to date her. Then he, without her consent or her knowledge—he didn’t tell her what he’s going to do, he told her nothing—he just simply imagined that he was hearing her tell him the most exciting story about one who is dating her, and she’s so excited. Not just one date, but date after date after date. So he has heard what he wanted her to experience. He made the experiment and now it became an experience. He did it for her. She is only an extension of himself because he is the center of the world in which he lives. Everyone is a center, a protean being, playing all the parts in the world. So he simply took her into his mind’s eye and revised her conversation, rubbed it out completely, and started fresh…rubbed out the slate. Now, everyone can do that, do it for a better job or for a job, for this, that or the other…I don’t care what it is in this world.456 ¶17

Don’t try to analyze it. Don’t try to analyze yourself, saying “What the devil have I done that was wrong?” because the minute you start that, you start blaming yourself. Because who in this world can honestly look himself in the face and not find unnumbered things that are unlovely! They may not have been externalized as yet, but they were thought. So no one can tell me he is without sin. All men have sinned. Not a man in this world can tell me he has not coveted; he has not in some way stolen if it’s only mentally. You can steal a man’s good name by describing him to another in unflattering terms, and therefore you take from him his good name. So you can steal, you can do all kinds of things in the psychological manner. So no man is without guilt, but no one! So don’t analyze yourself, because you’re going to find yourself guilty and then you cannot get off base.456 ¶18

So forget what you have done. What you’ve done will come up and you will reap it, the whole thing will come, all things are coming, the tares and the wheat together. But start planting afresh. Start with something lovely, something wonderful, not only for self but for the extended self, the seeming other, who is really not another, it’s yourself pushed out. Simply see them as you would like to see them…fall in love with them. Fall in love with them not to possess them but to see that they’re happy and, well, secure in this world. Then the satisfaction that comes to you…as it must come to anyone who can recognize their harvest. If you don’t recognize your harvest, well then, there’s no satisfaction. But if I can do something consciously and then see my harvest, as he did with this woman in his office; as the man whose letter he wrote for him, whose review he wrote for him; whose friend he simply got a better job with an increase in salary…and when you do these things no one can tell me it isn’t an enormous satisfaction. This is the most satisfying thing in the world, because you’re proving you have a creative power. And that is walking on water.456 ¶19

So anyone who has had the vision of walking upon water…as a friend here tonight said, “I saw this one walking upon water and this party said to me, ‘You’ll soon be walking on water and always.’” She will not go back to any walking on the stone; she will keep on walking on the water. No matter what happens in the course of a day she’ll revise it if it’s not what she wants. You don’t revise what you love, but you revise the unlovely and completely fix it…you’re walking on water.456 ¶20

So here is the story, he comes into the field to feed his flock and there’s a well, and it’s closed with a stone. He said, “Remove the stone”—the literal facts; for that blinds the eye—“and then draw the water,” and he waters the flock. Then he puts back the stone, because everyone comes to see the literal facts. But the one who knows it, rolls away the stone and takes out the water. So the first great miracle in scripture, he turns water into wine, but he first fills the stone jars with water, and then he draws out water, but it’s not water, it’s wine. So the literal facts…and here are the literal facts, and here, the whole vast world when I see it, this is the fact that blinds the eye of Imagination. Now he comes to cure the blind, to actually show them how to remove the facts of nature, how to remove it. These are the facts, I heard the story of this woman, I heard the story of a man in the office, I heard this, that and the other, these are the facts and they blind the eye of Imagination. I remove the stone and I draw out water. Water can take any shape in the world. Pour water into any shape and it will take the shape. Freeze it and it will take that shape. I don’t care what shape it is. It doesn’t care…it will take any shape in this world. It will not refuse any shape. So remove the stone, draw out the water, and then put it into the shape you desire, and then the whole thing will be externalized in your world.456 ¶21

Now, don’t fail one day in the practice of it. Every time that you use your Imagination lovingly on behalf of another, you are actually mediating God, which is your own marvelous Imagination, to the seeming other. You’re actually doing it. Of course, many people do it unlovingly and they’re still mediating themselves to the other. Tonight there are millions of people in the world who really believe that someone along the way placed a curse upon the Kennedys. Do you know there are millions in the entire world who believe in such power, and such powers do exist. Such powers do exist because imagining creates reality. There is no fiction. And as William Butler Yeats said, “I will never be certain it was not some woman treading in the winepress who started the subtle change in men’s minds, or that the passion because of which so many countries were given to the sword did not begin in the mind of some shepherd boy, lighting up his eyes for a moment before it ran upon its way.” Who knows? Who does this night who feels himself hurt and betrayed by a friend, who curses beyond measure and sets it in motion, and does not retract it. He does not know the art of forgiveness…and if he did, he didn’t want to forgive…and so he lets it move and the whole thing builds and builds and comes to its inevitable end.456 ¶22

I am not saying this, but the papers are even now breathing it. Today’s New York Times that we get every week, which is a Sunday issue, it’s the story of the family, and they start off on that note. “Could it be?” and they ask the question. All over the Latin world they certainly believe in curses as much as they do believe in prayers. In fact, they believe more in curses than they do in prayers.456 ¶23

So I said that theme was his, let that theme become ours. It was George Bernard Shaw’s thought, “Some men see things as they are and say why? I dream things that never were and say why not?” So I tell you the most incredible story in the world, the story of Jesus Christ, and if that is the way of salvation, I say why not! If that is the pattern that man can follow and must follow in order to escape from this world of eternal death, I say why not! It seems the most incredible thing in the world. And so, we who find ourselves here at our mothers’ breasts, and we dare, we who were born by the grace of God, to put a limit upon the power of God when we can’t make one hair of the head. We can’t make a nail grow; we can’t do anything to this body. Yes we can cut it up, we can shoot it, destroy it; but we can’t make one little hair grow in spite of all the claims to the contrary. And we dare to put a limit upon the power of God when we know it was the grace of God that gave us birth in this physical world. Cannot that same power give us birth in a higher world? For the promise is there in his revealed Word that you must be born from above . Well, if you must be, he has the power to do it. And he has given us the means by which it will be done, and it will be done in the same manner unknown by man. For we did not know we were born into a world by a power beyond ourselves, and we will be born into a spiritual world by a power beyond ourselves. We will be raised because he, his seed, descended and united with us. It was planted in us, a creative act, and that creative act, that union then awoke within us its pattern…for it contained the pattern. Then we awoke into an entirely different world.456 ¶24

All we can do while we remain is to tell it to those in the hope that they will believe it. And then to prove to them that it is true, tell them Caesar’s law of the walking on water: How they can by using this psychological law change their world and make it conform to their ideal. How they can change the world for others as well as themselves, and go through life not accepting any fact if it contradicts their ideal. Ignore it…turn from it. And then take the water, make a new plan, and pour the water into it, and see it complete itself in the world of Caesar. So that is our teaching here, that no one need remain behind the proverbial eight-ball if he knows this truth, and you need not put your hand out for any begging in the world. You need not ask anyone, because it’s all yours for the appropriation. You appropriate it. You simply completely appropriate this state, and the whole thing becomes yours.456 ¶25

I tell you, everyone will be born from above, but everyone. There’s nothing but God in this world. Not one will fail. It is not his purpose that one fail. But he has to hear the story, and having heard it he must believe it. Having believed it, at a moment in time he will be chosen and impregnated. God will send himself as a messenger, but it’s himself, and it will take place. He may or may not know that it’s taking place. But in the proper interval between that moment of union and birth, it will be a perfect, perfect time. For “The vision has its own appointed hour; it ripens, it will flower: if it be long wait; for it is sure, it will not be late” . It will not be late…right on time. So I say to everyone here, you are all called for a purpose. Those who have not yet been united with this seed will be. I have no knowledge as to that moment in time. If as a messenger I am used, I do not know it, I have no knowledge. It would be horrible if I knew. Those who receive the seed, some are conscious and most are not. But when the child is born, what does it matter whether you remembered the moment of conception or you didn’t? It’s all by a plan, a perfect plan, for he has a plan within his eternal body.456 ¶26

And they fill different orders. So there are those who fill one order, the apostle, those who fill that of the prophet, that of the teacher, that of the helper, the healer; there are different levels in the body of God. So it doesn’t really matter, because in the body we are one anyway.456 ¶27

But tonight, treat this seriously. You know what you want tonight? Well then, construct a scene which if it were true it would imply the fulfillment of your desire. Just construct a scene; bring it into your mind’s eye and try to the best of your ability to see it just as clearly as you would were it true. Then try to feel the naturalness of it, try to feel that it is true. That’s the experiment. Now, to the degree that you completely believe it, well then, it will end as an experience. You’ll experience it as true. Don’t stop there, keep on doing it, and share what you did with others. Tell them, tell them the story that God gave to us to free us from this bondage of Caesar.456 ¶28

When you know this, you don’t envy one person in this world. How could you envy anyone? How, this night, could Benny…walking the streets in the full knowledge that he was born from above, that God’s only begotten son called him Father, and in the not distant future, just a matter of a week or so, two weeks or so, he is going to find the third experience, how could he in this whole vast world envy anyone? They, blind as they may be and undoubtedly are, will look at him and pity him…and here he walks with his head high knowing who he is. So I tell you, don’t envy anyone. It’s all yourself, pushed out. In the end, everyone will be the same being because everyone will be God the Father. And that God the Father had only one Son, and that one Son calls us Father, and he’s that blonde, blue-eyed, fair skinned David. I don’t care if you are the black beyond the blackest of black, you are his Father and therefore equal to any being in this world. Not superior, but certainly not below. There’s only one Father.456 ¶29

So when you are the Father…as someone wrote me this letter, she said, “I heard a voice saying to me as I went to sleep, and the voice spoke like a thought being spoken from within, ‘Whenever David calls you Father, you are as the Ancient of Days.’” May I tell her (she’s not here) how true you are. I know in my own case I felt not old but something without time, timeless. It’s not an old being, decrepit, but someone that is timeless, the Ancient of Days. I knew I was the very being that embraced me, who was infinite love, when David called me Father. I knew I was that very being who was infinite love, who was really the Ancient of Days. Yet I did not lose my identity, none whatsoever…just that wonderful picture.456 ¶30

So tonight, you take it and take it seriously. If tomorrow you have something that confronts you that is not pleasant, don’t accept the fact. That blinds the eye of Imagination. Just simply remove the blinders. Now what would you like in the place of what seems to be true? Well then, conjure it and then revel in it as fact. Persuade yourself that it is, and that will become real within your world.456 ¶31

Now let us go into the Silence. * * *456 ¶32

Don’t try to change the Bible. That book is true. I read all this nonsense in the morning papers about the priests and what they say. If they only realized that when this thing started in the synagogues of the ancient world there were only lay people who were the teachers, no priests. Now we have only priests who call themselves the intermediary between you and God; and this all happened with the lay people. They came out of the synagogue having told their experiences, because the rabbis would not accept it as their interpretation of what the ancient scriptures meant. This whole thing is simply the Old Testament unfolding among the lay people. Now today we have priests and we have this and we have that, going all the way up to all this nonsense. Not a thing of that is in the early group who started the movement. They told what happened to them, and they pointed out, being good scholars of the Old Testament, the passages of the Old where this is what it meant. What else could it mean? “It happened to me, therefore, it’s not secular it’s supernatural”…that’s what they said. They were banished because they wanted to make it a secular thing. And today we still make it secular.456 ¶37

So I can’t tell anyone by appearances who is singled out at any moment in time for the planting of that seed. I do know that men are planted differently. They are brought into the presence of the risen Lord and embraced, and that embrace is a complete fusion, oneness. Then after that interval of time it appears. But with women it happens similar to the act in the shadow world, only raised to an intense degree to those who are conscious. To those who are not conscious it still is as effective.456 ¶38

Good night.456 ¶39

“Some men see things as they are and say why? I dream things that never were and say why not?456 ¶40

EVE. How can I conquer it? THE SERPENT. By another thing, called birth. EVE. What? B-birth? THE SERPENT. Yes, birth. EVE. What is birth? THE SERPENT. The serpent never dies. Some day you shall see me come out of this beautiful skin, a new snake with a new and lovelier skin. That is birth. EVE. I have seen that. It is wonderful.456 ¶41

THE SERPENT. If I can do that, what can I not do? I tell you I am very subtle. When you and Adam talk, I hear you say ‘Why?’ Always ‘Why?’ You see things; and you say ‘Why?’ But I dream things that never were; and I say ‘Why not?’ I made the word dead to describe my old skin that I cast when I am renewed. I call that renewal being born. EVE. Born is a beautiful word.456 ¶42

THE SERPENT. Why not be born again and again as I am, new and beautiful every time? EVE. I! It does not happen: that is why. THE SERPENT. That is how; but it is not why. Why not? EVE. But I should not like it. It would be nice to be new again; but my old skin would lie on the ground looking just like me; and Adam would see it shrivel up and— THE SERPENT. No. He need not. There is a second birth. EVE. A second birth?456 ¶43

THE SERPENT. Listen. I will tell you a great secret. I am very subtle; and I have thought and thought and thought. And I am very wilful, and must have what I want; and I have willed and willed and willed. And I have eaten strange things: stones and apples that you are afraid to eat. EVE. You dared! THE SERPENT. I dared everything. And at last I found a way of gathering together a part of the life in my body— EVE. What is the life? THE SERPENT. That which makes the difference between the dead fawn and the live one. EVE. What a beautiful word! And what a wonderful thing! Life is the loveliest of all the new words. THE SERPENT. Yes: it was by meditating on Life that I gained the power to do miracles.456 ¶44

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When did you write this letter, a couple of months ago? Well, I’m sorry but I can’t at the moment bring it to consciousness. Falling back…I recall one you wrote me…I was telling you, when you fell into the pool and that was a divided state of consciousness. But the other, falling backwards…it can mean many things. I know in my own case, when Blake told me to fall backwards I fell in utter faith when he said fall backwards [...]. We were discussing the unity of being, and then I fell like a meteor through infinite space, and when my motion was arrested, in the distance was this perfectly glorious being, one man. One man…and as I approached his heart was like a glowing ruby. When I got nearer and nearer, he was infinite men, and yet at a distance he was one man. So I fell backwards, like taking a high dive backwards. But this went through infinite space, and then my motion was arrested after I’d gone through like a falling meteor, and I saw the one man, only one man with the glowing heart just like a ruby afire. As I came closer, he was multiple people, multiple nations in one man. So I know the truth of the statement that we are one. When I say I’m incorporated into the body of Christ without loss of identity, I know that from experience. And all will come into that one body. So in these seven ones, as given us in Ephesians, “Only one body, one Spirit, one hope, one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of us all.” One! This is a world of diversity, but one fell into a diversified world, and all will be gathered one by one into this fabulous redeemed body. It will be far greater than anything before, more glorious. But I couldn’t go back two months or more and bring that letter back. I’ve received hundreds since. I think I have a fairly decent memory, but it would not go back in that way.456 ¶34

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You will, my dear. Because I am not physically present does not mean you will not, the protean being that you are, conjure me. After all, I am still within you. If I depart now, where would I go? See, the “within” is the really expanding state; the “without” is the contraction. Well, you’re young enough to have the experience. You’ve already had the conception, and so at your age you’ll have it, but you may have someone say, ‘But she’s too old to have it.’ See, that is part of scripture. It does not refer to man, it refers to woman, and so in every case…Sarah is “she’s too old.” They didn’t say that Abraham was too old; Abraham was a hundred, she was ninety. But it is said in scripture, “Sarah is too old, it has ceased to be with her after the manner of woman” . Not a thing was said of Abraham, because his conception differed from her conception. Man’s conception is the embrace of the risen Lord; woman’s conception, he sends his messenger. It is a conception but raised to the nth degree beyond anything emotionally that is known here, but something similar. Man’s conception is the risen Lord embraces you; woman’s conception gives the same results. And scripture shows it so beautifully…it was said of her she’s too old. It was not said of one who was ten years older who was man. Mine happened in ’29. I was a boy of twenty-four, and it was simply a union by an embrace, but an ecstasy beyond the wildest dream of man. It was conscious…I can see it now. I can see him now. I can see the one who sent me…it’s vivid. I can see the one who recorded my name in the book. The whole thing is so vivid in my mind’s eye and that’s back in 1929. But in women it is said, “You’re too old or she is too old” because that was said of the promise to Sarah…and she laughed. Now not a thing was said of Abraham laughing; she laughed; so she calls the offspring “he laughs,” named Isaac. Isaac means “he laughs.” So the mystery is perfect.456 ¶36

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Walk on Water

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Walk on Water

T he Bible is addressed to the Man of Imagination, he who is immortal and cannot die. “The Eternal Body of Man is the Imagination. That is God Himself. The Divine Body, Jesus, we are his members.” Ted Kennedy recently gave a eulogy for his brother, in which he quoted a passage from George Bernard Shaw. The thought was this: “Some men see things as they are and say, Why? I dream of things that never were and say, Why not?” When you think of your birth into this world as an act of God, can anything be impossible to God? Not knowing how or why you are here, you sin against the Holy Ghost when you dare to put a limit on the power that brought you here! There is no sin against the Holy Ghost other than man’s belief that something is impossible to his own wonderful human imagination!455 ¶1

I want you to go all out! To put no limit on God’s creative power. To imagine that which is unimaginable and to walk on the water, through faith. Water symbolises your acceptance of life as psychological, and its drama as taking place in the Imagination. When you cease excusing yourself or anyone for life’s experiences, and begin to rearrange the structure of your mind to feel your desire is fulfilled, you are walking on the water.455 ¶2

Scripture speaks of the stone, the water, and the wind. Accept the facts of life and you are stepping down on stone. Change the facts in your imagination, and you have turned them into psychological truth, which then becomes a spiritual experience. When you live by this principle, you are walking on water, towards your birth from beyond.455 ¶3

Let me now share some experiences of a friend who practices the art of walking on the water. In his letter he said: “There is a lady in my office who was constantly talking about the absence of decent, eligible men in her life, claiming they were all riffraff and no good. Six weeks ago, while driving home from work, I revised her words. I heard her tell me she was dating a marvelous man and sharing the wonderful things they were doing. Recently this lady was so glum, I reminded myself to revise her words again, so I did. Yesterday she spent twenty minutes telling me of the perfect gentleman she is now dating. He must be terrific, for this lady is now walking in ecstasy.”455 ¶4

Then he continued, saying: “An associate asked me to write a news review for his client. I gathered all of the material together that I would need, put it in a folder and placed it on my desk, which was piled high with pending work. Then one Friday my associate said: ‘My client wants to see me next Monday at 9:00 A.M. in his office,’ and I realised that I must produce the news review at that time. Immediately I sat down and imagined it was 5:00 P.M. My review was completed, read by my associate, and approved. I heard him say: ‘It is just fine.’ Satisfied with that scene as my end result, I found the folder, sat down at my typewriter and typed four pages, as everything flowed smoothly. At 5:00 that afternoon my associate stopped by my office, read the report, and said the exact words I had heard him say in my imagination: ‘It is just fine.’”455 ¶5

When you truly believe that imagining creates reality, you will know there is no fiction. How can there be fiction when imagining is forever creating its reality? You may hear something you do not like, but because imagining creates reality what you heard was first imagined, or it could not have happened. When you revise the hearing by stopping the action and rewriting the script you are walking on the water, imagining the reality you desire to hear and appear in your world.455 ¶6

My friend continued his letter, saying: “There are certain things in my life I do not understand. Last Sunday, as my wife, our youngest son, and I were planting summer flowers, I realised that I was experiencing – in detail – what I had dreamed as happening last winter. At the time I thought the dream must have been symbolic, but not knowing the symbolism of flowers, I dropped it. Now I do not understand the relationship between a night dream – which I did not control, and last Sunday’s planting – which I did control.”455 ¶7

Every event in life contains within itself something beyond its physical experience. Flowers symbolise the growth of plantings. During winter, when nothing grows, he planted seeds, which he will harvest not only in the world of Caesar, but also in the world of the Spirit, as we all do.455 ¶8

I urge you now to use your imagination and walk on the water. Plant the seeds of desire in the depth of your soul and allow them to flower on earth. If you do not see their harvest immediately, believe what you did, for it will come whether you recognise it or not. And do not sin against the Holy Ghost by saying something is impossible, for God is your own wonderful human imagination and nothing is impossible to imagine.455 ¶9

When someone tells you something, although you may deny its truth or possibility, you must imagine in order to understand their words. Unless, of course, they speak in a foreign tongue, then all is nonsense. As Paul said: “I would rather speak five words with understanding, than ten thousand words that cannot be understood.” Don’t think of the reasons why you cannot have your desire; simply think you already have it! If you tell yourself it is not possible, you are sinning against the Holy Ghost. I know of no limitation to the power of God.455 ¶10

David is described in the Book of Samuel as ruddy, with beautiful eyes, and fair of skin. If you judge from appearance, then certain races would be excluded – but David is not of this world. David is he who rises in us because of the descent of the seed of God. Whether you are Caucasian, Negro, or Oriental, Christ – God’s seed – descends and plants itself in you. And when union between that descending, higher seed and that which is only an animated being takes place, you are individually lifted into a supernatural world, where you know yourself to be the father of God’s only begotten son, David.455 ¶11

I urge you to use your imagination for everything that is lovely and loving. I don’t care what your desire may be – your imagination will give it to you, for the human imagination is the divine body the world calls Jesus. Because you can imagine and I can imagine, we are members of that one divine body, and all things are possible to him. There is not a thing impossible to God. All you need do is imagine its fulfillment!455 ¶12

Faith is an experiment which ends as an experience. Experiment by believing you already have all that you desire, and you will have the experience. Test yourself like my friend did. He experimented with the thought that the lady had a wonderful boyfriend. He then imagined hearing her tell him about the new man in her life. Then his experiment became her experience.455 ¶13

You are the center of the world in which you live. A seeming other is only an extension of yourself, for the center of your being is protean. It is he who plays the parts of all the seeming others.455 ¶14

I challenge you to experiment with a new or better job, a husband or a wife, a new car or home. Don’t try to analyse your desires or blame yourself, for the moment you do, you discover unnumbered things which are unlovely, and the moment they are thought, they are formed.455 ¶15

No one is without sin. At some time everyone has mentally coveted or stolen. Describe a man in unflattering terms and you have stolen his good name. Everyone is guilty; therefore, do not analyse yourself, for if you do, you will miss your mark.455 ¶16

To worry about what you may have done is to waste your creative power. You will reap the tares as well as the wheat, as every imaginal act fulfills itself. But start now to plant something lovely – not only for yourself, but for your neighbour, friend, or child. Fall in love with the idea that he is happy and secure.455 ¶17

Feel the satisfaction that comes when one recognises his harvest, for if a harvest is not recognised, there is no satisfaction. But when you do something consciously and see your harvest, you will receive enormous satisfaction. Prove your thoughts have creative power by consciously imaging constantly, and walk on the water. No matter what happens in the course of a day, revise it. Make the day conform to what you want it to be, and you are walking on the water.455 ¶18

Genesis tells the story of Jacob, who saw a well covered with a stone. Removing the stone, he drew water for his flock. And when he put the stone back, everything appeared to remain the same as before, so no one knew who had rolled away the stone and removed the water. In the New Testament, Jesus performed his first miracle by filling the stone jars with water and drawing out wine.455 ¶19

Facts blind the I of imagination. I have come to cure this blindness and show you how to remove the acts of nature. The woman in the office shared her facts, as well as the man who had been bawled out. Discovering imagination to be his well, my friend removed those stone facts from his mind, and drew the truth he desired to hear out of his imagination and placed it in another vessel – another fact.455 ¶20

Pour water into any container and it will not care what shape or size the vessel may be. Freeze the container and the water will have taken on its shape. So if you remove the stone and draw out the water, you can place it into any shape you desire and it will externalise itself.455 ¶21

Do not let a day pass without practicing the art of walking on water. Every time you use your imagination lovingly on behalf of another, you are mediating God to the seeming other. So many people use their imagination un-lovingly, yet they are still mediating God to that other.455 ¶22

Millions of people believe that someone has placed a curse on the Kennedy’s. Do you know that such powers do exist, because imagining creates reality? William Butler Yeats once said: “1 will never be certain it was not some woman treading in the winepress who started the subtle change in men’s mind. Or that the pressing out of which so many countries were given to the sword, did not begin in the mind of some shepherd boy, lighting up his eyes for a moment before it ran upon its way.”455 ¶23

Who knows who, this night – feeling hurt and betrayed by a friend – will set his thoughts of anger and revenge into motion, with no thought of regret. Perhaps he does not know the art of forgiveness or have the desire to forgive, thereby allowing his thoughts to move and build and build until they come to their inevitable end – by outpicturing themselves in his life.455 ¶24

But as George Bernard Shaw said: “Some men see things as they are and say, Why? I see things that never were and say, Why not?” I tell you the incredible story of Jesus Christ, the pattern which man must follow in order to escape eternal death, and say, Why not? How can we who were physically born by the grace of God, yet cannot make one hair on our head or fingernail grow, dare to put a limit on God’s power? If the grace of God gave us physical birth, cannot that same power give us spiritual birth into a higher world? The promise is: “You shall be born from above.” If God makes such a promise, he has the power to keep it. And he does, through his gift of vision. Born of flesh by a power beyond ourselves, we are destined to be born into a spiritual world by a power beyond ourselves, because God’s seed descended and united with us. It was planted by a creative act; and when that seed is fertilised, it erupts, the pattern awakens, and we move into an entirely different age.455 ¶25

God’s pattern has erupted in me. I am telling you my story in the hope that you who hear it will believe and prove its truth for yourselves. I have told you of Caesar’s law, taught you how to walk on the water and use this psychological law to change your world – not only for yourselves, but for others.455 ¶26

No one needs to remain behind the proverbial eight-ball if he knows this truth. There is no need to beg or ask anyone for anything, for everything lives in the human imagination, ready to appropriate and be made visible.455 ¶27

Everyone will be born from above, for everyone is God and there is nothing but God. No one can fail; but God’s story must be heard and believed. So God sends himself as the messenger, by choosing an individual and impregnating him. The person may or may not know what is happening, but in the perfect interval of time, birth will take place.455 ¶28

Everyone here is called for a purpose. If you have not been united with this seed – wait, for it is sure and will not be late. There are those who have been conscious when they received the seed. Others have not; but when the child is born does it matter whether the moment of conception is remembered or not? It’s all the fulfillment of a perfect plan within God’s eternal body, each filling his specific order.455 ¶29

There are those who will be the apostle, others the prophet, still others the teacher, the helper, and the healer. There are different levels in the body of God, but it doesn’t matter, because in that body we are all one.455 ¶30

Take me seriously. When you know what you want in life, construct a scene which would imply your desire is fulfilled. See it as clearly as possible. Feel its naturalness. Experiment until you know the scene and all it implies is real. Now, to the degree that you believe in its reality, your experiment will become your experience.455 ¶31

Do not stop there. Keep on imagining and share your results with others. Tell them how to free themselves from this bondage to Caesar. When you know who you really are, you will not envy anyone. How could you, when you know you are God, and they are only yourself pushed out?455 ¶32

If tomorrow, something comes into your life that is not to your liking, do not accept it, for this fact blinds the I of imagination. Remove the blindness by asking yourself what you would like, in place of what seems to be. Enter into that thought. Revel in it as though it were not a fact. Persuade yourself that it is. Believe in its reality and it will become your experience.455 ¶33

Now let us go into the silence.455 ¶34

Old Testament Is Prophetic Blueprint of the Life of Jesus Christ

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Old Testament Is Prophetic Blueprint of the Life of Jesus Christ

The Old Testament is a prophetic blueprint of the life of Jesus Christ. You may not know it but you are Jesus Christ, and everything said in scripture you will fulfill. God became as we are that we may be as he is, and everything in scripture you are going to fulfill. It does not matter about the outer world. When they said to him, “Do you believe in taxes?” he said, “Give me the coin.” When he saw it, he said, “Whose inscription is this?” and they said, “Caesar’s.” Well, he said, “Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar’s.” So he does not change anything in this world, nothing. There is no attempt to change the tyrant, to change anything. He’s simply telling us that you and I are God, and we came into a world that was predetermined, pre-made, a horrible world. And while immersed in the world, we would have an experience, the most fantastic experience in the world, which is the story as told in the New Testament of Jesus Christ. So here, everything in the world is like a play for the fulfillment of this wonderful plan that you and I will experience.453 ¶1

Now tonight, let me share with you not only what I have experienced but what others who are here tonight have shared with me. It’s perfectly marvelous. Now, you who are thinking in terms of the world of Caesar, don’t be discouraged, everything is possible in the world of Caesar, but everything. You want money? You can have it. You want fame? You can have it. You want…I don’t care what it is…you can have it. And don’t let anyone tell you that you can’t or that you should not. If that’s what you want, you can have it. But I am speaking this night of an entirely different picture where you will awaken as the being who completely conceived it all, created it all, became it all, and came out of it all. That is the being of whom I speak.453 ¶2

The entire Old Testament is the prophetic blueprint of the life of Jesus Christ. He said, “I came only to fulfill scripture. Scripture must be fulfilled in me. And beginning with Moses and the law and the prophets, he interpreted to them in all the scriptures everything concerning himself” . That’s all that he did. He didn’t try to change anything in the world of Caesar, not one thing. He wasn’t interested in those who stole, those who went forward to do all kinds of things. He was only concerned with one thing: To fulfill what the prophets have told; for everything concerning him the prophets foretold.453 ¶3

Now what did they tell? They said he had to be born from above, that’s what they told. “You must be born from above, for unless you are born from above you cannot in anywise enter the kingdom of heaven” . Something entirely different, it’s entirely different. You can’t take anything in this world of Caesar and relate it to the kingdom of heaven. It’s altogether different. I can’t explain it to anyone, because I can’t find any image on earth to describe it. When I try to tell you what I know from experience of the kingdom of heaven, I can’t. There’s not an image on earth I can use.453 ¶4

But while we are here we can use all these images, and he allows it, to have everything we want in this world. He said, “I’ve come only to fulfill scripture.” Then when the scripture was fulfilled, he said, “Father, I have finished the work thou gavest me to do. Now return unto me the glory that was mine, the glory that I had with thee before that the world was” . Here, he tells you he came out from God. He was God himself who denuded himself of an infinite power, infinite wisdom, infinite glory and came into the world of death. Now he’s finished what he came in to do; now return unto me the glory that was mine, the glory that I had with thee before that the world was. Now he’s returning to that state, bringing back what he accomplished in this world.453 ¶5

And what did he accomplish?—he fulfilled scripture. He prophesied all the things that man would do. And what man does is not in this world of Caesar, it’s what man does within himself. It’s completely supernatural. A supernatural birth, a supernatural resurrection, a supernatural discovery of who he really is, before he even started out. Because he was the Father before he started out. So he discovers the fatherhood of God. Then he discovers everything in this world. But by the discovery he brings back a fantastic measure of power, of wisdom, of glory that he did not possess before he started. So I’m telling you what I know from experience.453 ¶6

It seems strange tonight to tell you this, but he spoke to a select audience as he’s about to depart and tell them what he knew they would continue and carry on after his departure. And this is what he told them as you will read it in the 17th chapter of the gospel of John. But he’s praying not for others but for those who will carry on, who will take it and go forward and tell the story. Because it doesn’t really matter what the whole vast world is doing tonight, it doesn’t really matter. It’s only that select crowd that will really carry on and perpetuate the eternal story that has to be unfolded in everyone in this world. So he said: “I pray not for others, I pray for them, those that thou gavest to me, for they are mine, and I gave myself to them. I told them every word that thou gavest to me. I did not add to it, I did not take from it, I simply told it, just as you told it to me.”453 ¶7

Well, the “word told to me” is what I experience. It’s not something I have heard; it’s what I experience that was the word. So you tell it and then there are those who are brought out who hear it and then they will continue after you depart this world and make your, well, exit as it were. For the call is on, believe me!453 ¶8

Now here tonight, let me tell you, you’re only here to fulfill scripture. You may have a desire to be the biggest person in this world, and may I tell you, you can realize it. You may have the desire to be…I don’t care what it is…you can realize it. Yet the purpose behind the entire drama is to fulfill scripture. There is no other purpose than to fulfill scripture. So one should set his hope fully upon that grace, which is the fulfillment of scripture. “Set your hope fully upon the grace that is coming to you at the unveiling of Christ Jesus” , who is the fulfillment of scripture; for all the promises of God find their yes in him, their fulfillment in him. So set my hope fully upon the unveiling of this being in me. When he unveils himself in me, I am under compulsion to share it with everyone in my world, and tell it to every being who will listen to me. Some will accept it, some will reject it. But my purpose is to simply tell it to every being in the world who will hear me.453 ¶9

Now, scripture has a strange symbolism. The Bible symbolizes God. Unfortunately, our very, very wise, able scholars have not quite understood that the Bible is symbolism and they’ve tried to give it sense. So they’ve taken the individual words intended for us not to take it literally in one sense and they’ve changed it to give sense to it. Now tonight, let us turn to a few of these things. In scripture, the eye is omniscience, “the eye of God that sees everything”; it is also “God’s favor, that his eye be upon me.” The ear is obedience. The nose is anger—not as the world would understand anger. He said, “The anger of the Lord will not turn back until he has executed and accomplished the intents of his mind; in the latter days you will understand it perfectly” . Well, the word anger, which is called “the nostril, the nose”—it means that the face will not turn. It’s a heavy breathing, the breath of the Lord, and he breathes and breathes, and he will not turn until he has executed the intents of his mind.453 ¶10

Then we find the word kidneys and they mean the emotions. And you’ll find all the different translations changing it completely, putting it into some other word altogether. Then we’ll find the word liver. The King James Version keeps it as liver; the Revised Standard Version turns it into “the heart.” It’s not the heart. The liver is the center of life, as told us in the 7th chapter of Proverbs. The father is telling his son how to avoid the loose woman, the harlot, how the harlot will set herself up and attract this youth, and when she brings him into her house, all perfumed, and she’s all ready to receive him, she will tell him that my husband has gone away, and he will not return until the full moon, so we can have all night with love. And he will be persuaded by her words, not knowing that he is like the ox that is led to the slaughter; that he is like the stag that is snared, ’til the arrow pierces his liver, which is the end of his life. So it associates the piercing of that liver with his life.453 ¶11

Now, our scholars change it and call it by some other name. But I’ll tell you in my own experience what it means: He pierced the right side of his body on the cross, which is the liver. The 42nd Psalm: “And I remember when I went,” said the psalmist, “and led them in gay procession to the house of God.” I remember, said he, when they all said to me, “Where is your God?” “My soul was distraught,” said he. Now, this night in my own experience I remember when I went and led them in gay procession to the house of God. I can’t tell you how vast the crowd, an enormous crowd—for I am only here to fulfill scripture-—and this enormous crowd, and I am leading them in procession to the house of God. And a voice rings out: “And God walks with them.” One at my side, a woman, and she said, “If God walks with us, where is he?” and the voice answered, “At your side.” She turned to her left and saw me and became hysterical, it struck her so funnily. She said, “Is Neville God?” and the voice answered, “Yes, in the act of waking.” Then the voice spoke within me, no one else heard it, this enormous crowd, and the voice said, “I laid myself down within you to sleep, and as I slept, I dreamed a dream. I dreamed…” and then I knew exactly what he was dreaming: He was dreaming that he’s I and when he wakes, he is I and I am he. That happened many, many years ago, that 42nd Psalm. It’s a memory…the whole thing…these things I remember, when we were completely crucified with Christ. Now this is what I remember. For at that moment when I heard it, before the end of the sentence took place, my body was completely crucified.453 ¶12

But what ecstasy! It wasn’t sadness. My hands, my head, my feet, my side were pierced by vortices. So when we are told that he pierced your liver, I know it to be true. Liver is comparative with “live.” And here, you pour out your entire being when you’re pierced by the sixth state into your side. So here is a symbolism of scripture and everyone fulfills it. You have had it. Every one of you has had it. You will remember it, and when you remember it, it all comes back: That I was actually crucified. But the crucifixion was not sad; it was the most glorious, ecstatic state in the world when I was nailed upon this cross, willingly, deliberately. And my hands, my feet, my head and my liver were completely pierced by vortices.453 ¶13

So I tell you, I know from experience this whole thing is a blueprint of the life of Jesus Christ, and you are Jesus Christ. You may not know it, but there is nothing but Jesus Christ. There is only Jesus Christ in the world who nailed himself deliberately upon this shadow. And while he walks this world as this shadow the drama unfolds within him, and then he returns taking back the additional power and wisdom and luminosity that he got from this experience. So everyone here will take it back, but everyone. In the meanwhile, while we’re in the world of Caesar, may I tell you, use it wisely and do anything you want in this world. You want to be rich? You can be rich. You want to be known? You can be known. You want to be this, that or the other? Whatever you do, you can be it. But in the end it will all vanish as though it were not. For the only thing is I have come to fulfill scripture. I predicted what I would do, I told it, and then come into the world to fulfill it.453 ¶14

Now here, this perfectly lovely story…she’s here tonight…it’s all scripture. She said—and this is just on an aside, this is not scripture—this is an aside, but this is part of scripture based upon repentance, which means “a change of attitude.” She said, “After Kennedy was assassinated, I found myself riding in a car with Kennedy and we were riding on water. Someone said, ‘We’re on water, and I cannot walk on water’ and then I said to this one, ‘Oh, I can walk on water. I always walk on water.’ And then I woke, returned to sleep, and in my second dream here is Kennedy, Robert Kennedy, and my hand is in his head molding his brain. I said to him, ‘I am simply changing the day. I am changing the order of the day.’ And as we went on I said to him, as my hand is still in his brain molding this change of the day, ‘I will take you to the potter’s house.’” She’s taking him to the potter’s house. And then she said, “I wonder what I should call you?” “Bobby?” She said, “No, that’s too childish. Bob? No, I’ll call you Robert,” said she to Kennedy. “You see it’s only a rearrangement.” She so learned her lesson that she could take this one and rearrange the day of his exit from this world, and put her hand into his brain and rearrange it, change the entire thing, and call him not Bobby but Robert. Bobby is diminutive, like Jackie, Johnny…it’s a littleness. She couldn’t even call him Bob which would not be diminutive, but she called him Robert and changed the entire picture in his mind’s eye.453 ¶15

Now she said, “I went back to sleep and this is my dream. I looked through seemingly this eye, it was the right eye. But, may I tell you, I was not looking through my right eye, I was looking at my right eye. I wasn’t looking through it, I was looking at it. Looking through it in a sense; I was not looking with it. I was looking through it but not with it. And the right eye opened, just a little bit…a little light beyond. I am from the dark side and I am looking through it but not with my right eye. The left eye collapsed, had no muscular reaction. And beyond this I’m looking through, I saw a little figure, a quarter of an inch, and it was Jesus Christ in a white robe.” Now she said, “I know, in this world of mine, I do not believe in any Jesus Christ in a white robe, but here I saw this little, tiny quarter of an inch figure in a white robe, and I knew it was Jesus Christ. Then it closed and opened up further, and then there were three figures. Then it closed, opened further, and then there was a woman in the center and these three figures around her. One figure had a child, a babe, in his arms, these three men, and presented it to the woman. I figured that’s Mary receiving the Christ child. The entire thing unfolded within me and I am looking not with the eye, I am looking through the eye, and seeing all this within me. It seemed as though my whole head was a luminous thing and I’m looking into my head.”453 ¶16

May I tell her, and she’s here tonight, read the last vision of Blake, he calls it The Vision of the Last Judgment. And the very last words in the entire Vision of the Last Judgment are “I do not consult my corporeal or vegetable eye any more than I would a window through which I look. I look through it, not with it.” May I tell you, you looked through your eye…and the 32nd chapter of Deuteronomy and the 7th chapter of Amos will tell you what you saw. The 32nd chapter of Deuteronomy, you looked and you saw the “apple of his eye.” The word apple in scripture—“And I saw the apple of my eye”—he’s looking at Jacob. And “Jacob I loved and Esau I hated.” Well, Jacob the apple of his eye means “the little man in the eye,” in the pupil of the eye. Did you ever look into anyone’s eye? Know who you see? You see yourself. You never see the one that you think you’re looking at. If you look into the eye of anyone in this world, right into the pupil of his eye, you see your own reflection. God is in love with himself. So you look right into the pupil of the eye and you see the apple of his eye, the one he loves most…and that one is himself. May I tell you, the being that you really are, the God that you are, is in love with himself, and it is you. He looks right in and he sees only you, and you are the reflection of himself. Look tomorrow into anyone’s eye or look into the mirror, look right into the pupil of the eye, and see if you see anyone other than yourself. You will never see anyone other than yourself. It’s called “the little man in the eye” as defined in scripture. He is the little man in the eye. So how, said she, this little tiny thing a quarter of an inch high—“How can Jacob stand, he is so little?” And you read that in the 2nd and the 5th verses of the 7th chapter of Amos: “How can Jacob stand, he is so little”…this little tiny thing in the eye. So you look right into the eye and you see the one that you are bringing forward into this world. You are in love with that being, for he reflects you. So everyone reflects himself when he looks into the pupil of the eye. It’s called the apple of the eye in scripture.453 ¶17

Now, she said that when she saw these men, each one after the other said, “I am a man.” She knew she was all these men and each one said, “I am a man.” And it struck her so funnily that she could be a man. She’s very feminine, may I tell you, very, very feminine. And yet, everyone announced, “I am a man.” As I’ve told you time and again, in the end we are all brothers. There’s nothing but God, and God is humanity, and it’s all man. Everyone is man. There is nothing but man.453 ¶18

Now tonight it may not seem practical; may I tell you, it’s the most practical thing in the world. If I can take your mind away for a moment from the seeming “I must have tomorrow’s job, I must have tomorrow’s thousand dollars” and take you into this light and let you rest upon it for awhile, you will get tomorrow’s thousands, I promise you. You go right back into an entirely different world from what you knew before.453 ¶19

Now, you read the last of Blake’s: “And I do not consider the window through which I look. I do not question that window. I look through it, not with it.” Well, she looked through the right eye, not with the right eye, and it went right in, and she saw what anyone who opens up that right eye will see. I tell you she saw correctly. She saw the little figure Jesus Christ, and she knew it was Jesus Christ. He is in your eye. When you look that’s what you see, that’s Jesus Christ. And the day will come you’ll have the same experience when the eye will open. She felt herself moving inward. She was not asleep, she was half asleep, and suddenly the right eye, she’s not looking with it, she’s looking through it. As she looked through the right eye, she sees this little figure and she knew it was Jesus, draped in robes. And then it split, like a cloud parting, and something bigger came, and three men took the place. Then it split again, and then a woman took the place; and the three surrounded her; and one with a child giving it to one, this woman, and she knew it was Mary receiving the child. And may I tell you, that story is true. I know it from my own experience, the drama is completely within us, and everything concerning the story is true. But how can you tell it and persuade anyone who cannot see through that eye? We’re all looking with the eye, and you don’t, you look through the eye. I look right through the right eye, and that’s the drama that I see.453 ¶20

Now here, in scripture we’re told: “Who would believe our report and to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?” You read that and you wonder, “What on earth does it matter? What are these stupid words?” May I tell you, they are all true. The day will come that you will know that the arm of God is power, and the right hand of God is victory, vindication. How can I tell it? The right hand is victory, the arm is power. One day you will find yourself in a room just like this, and you’re talking to twelve and telling them of the Word of God, when suddenly one of the twelve will leave the room. And you know instantly what he’s doing. He’s revealing what you’ve said, that you’ve just told the great secret of God. And he’s going now to Caesar to tell Caesar, or Caesar’s lieutenant. Instantly, someone comes in, handsome, wonderful, beautifully gowned, and he walks to the end of the room, walks around, comes over and faces you. You all stand, because he is a very important person in the world of Caesar. You are all seated and you’re talking quite casually, as I am to you, when this thing happens. He comes in and he faces you, and he takes a sharp instrument, a knife, and he makes one circular motion, and cuts off your sleeve, and exposes your right arm. Pulls it off, this little thing, and discards it, and your complete right arm is exposed. And then he nails into your shoulder a peg, completely bangs it into your shoulder. Then he stretches his arms out, he embraces you, he kisses you on the right side of your neck, you kiss him on the right side of his neck, and then the whole thing vanishes.453 ¶21

Then you know the 53rd of Isaiah: “Scripture must be fulfilled in me” if I am he. And so, the right arm is revealed. So your victory has been accomplished. Your vindication has been accomplished. You have fulfilled scripture. And everyone will, everyone in this world will discover that he is Jesus Christ. And Jesus Christ… “Sit at the right hand ’til I make your enemies your footstool.” And the right hand is simply victory and vindication, while the arm itself is sheer power. But this time, he takes off the robe, takes it off completely, and you see the bare arm. That’s exactly what the word means in Hebrew, “the bare arm.” He unveils it and the bare arm is revealed. Then, if that is the story of Jesus Christ and it happens to you, then you know who you are. How else would I know that I am he unless everything said of him happens to me? So this is scripture. I tell you, it will happen to every one of you.453 ¶22

And I can’t tell you my thrill when tonight I look in this audience and I know so many of you who’ve been born from above, and who have had all of these wonderful experiences of scripture. Because I will depart and you’ll carry on, and you’ll carry on the story and tell it. Tell it and read the 17th chapter of John to know what I’m talking about. You’ll carry on and you will tell it, because the time is up for the passage from this world. And here, I’m here only to fulfill scripture. I have fulfilled scripture, and must, like Paul, remain for a moment until it’s organized, and then they carry on.453 ¶23

But, for those who want Caesar’s world and Caesar’s things, may I tell you, you can have it. You can have everything you want in this world. For that is part of scripture: “Believe that you have received it” (persist in that assumption) “and you will” . I don’t care what the world will tell you, believe that you have what you want, persist in that assumption and you will have it…every one in this world. But after you have everything in the world it will be as though you made foot-prints on the seashore before the floodtide. Doesn’t matter what you accomplish in this world, for the only purpose in this world is to fulfill scripture. “I have come to fulfill scripture. Scripture must be fulfilled in me. And beginning with Moses and all the prophets, he interpreted to them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.” And then they said, “Did not our hearts burn within us when he interpreted to us the scriptures?” So that’s the story. Everyone will eventually experience scripture, and fulfill it to its fullness; because, in the end, we are all the same one Jesus Christ.453 ¶24

Now let us go into the Silence. * * * Now are there any questions, please?453 ¶25

Q and A

Neville, I didn’t [...] about the ear.453 ¶26

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The ear is obedience. Listen, all through the scripture, and obey; to hear. So the eye is omniscience plus favor; and the ear, obedience; the nostril, anger. But the anger in the sense not as the world understands anger, but, I mean “a determination,” that it will not waver one moment. It will simply continue until what is contained within the mind of God is executed and accomplished. And then you have, well, there are so many strange things. The King James Version gives the most literal translation; the Revised Standard Version has changed it. For instance, in the 5th chapter of the Songs of Solomon, she is telling that her lover is coming and she knows…she has already bathed herself, and she has already taken off her gown, and she cannot now put on her gown because she’s taken off the gown. She cannot now soil her feet because she’s washed her feet, and she hears the lover at the door. His hand is upon the knob, that is, upon the door. And then, she uses an expression that “she moved her bowels.” Well now, in the modern use of words, you would think of a strange thing…it isn’t that. It hasn’t a thing to do…the word translated bowels in the Kg. Jas. Ver. and in the Rev. Std. Ver. is heart. “My heart leaped within me.” The word means “uterus.” Or it means, if it’s a male, “the genitals,” his masculine organs…that these jumped within him. Something is taking place: It’s a creative act. So it doesn’t mean that she moved her bowels as we would say today, but they use the word bowels. And yet the word in Hebrew simply means the “uterus” if it’s female or the “genitals” of a man if it’s male. So you’ve got to go back into the Concordance and find the actual definition of the word. Kidneys, well, that’s emotions. And here, you find all these different, well…life, the center of life, that’s the liver. The principle of life, that’s the blood, for life is in the blood. So you find all these things, but don’t take anything for granted. Go into your Concordance, look it up and see what it means, for it’s all symbolism. “God is man…you are a man, God is no more. Your own humanity learn to adore” …for it’s all man. So they take every organ in the body and they catalog it in scripture. But they do it in such a way and when it doesn’t make sense to our scholars they change it, and it doesn’t mean that. It means the symbol…just use the symbol. He’s not speaking of liver, he’s not speaking of kidneys, he’s not speaking of the [...]. He’s not speaking of the bowel, he’s not speaking of the heart. He is using that as a symbol. But if they do not know it’s a symbol…and so they simply change the symbol to give it what they consider a better meaning today. So if I said I heard my lover at the door and as his hand was upon the knob of the door, I moved my bowels, well, that in the present connotation would be a horrible thing. It doesn’t mean that. The word translated in the King James Version “bowels,” and in the other “entrails,” hasn’t a thing to do with it. The word is uterus. That female organ began to completely quiver, because something is coming through the door which means love tonight. That’s what it means. In the 5th chapter, read it in the 4th verse of the Songs of Solomon. And you see this entire picture unfolding. The whole thing is a drama, it’s a love drama, it’s a sex drama, but not as the world sees it. It’s something entirely different. So every little thing…God is defined and described in symbolism in the Bible, his every organ of the body. When we read in the 32nd chapter of Genesis that Jacob wrestled through the night with the Lord, he didn’t know it was the Lord. And then the Lord when he did not prevail against Jacob and Jacob insisted that he would tell him his name, and the Lord—he didn’t know it was the Lord, he thought it was some demon, but it was the Lord with whom he wrestled; and the Lord touched him on his thigh and then he shrank, and thereafter he limped. Well now, you read that and you wonder, “What is all this about?” Well, look up the word thigh, look up the word limp, look up the word shrank and you will see what happened. He changed his name from Jacob to Israel. Israel means “one who rules as God”; Jacob means “a supplanter.” Well, the word thigh is that soft part on which the creative organ hangs. So he touched his creative organ and reversed the course of generation. And so, he turned him from Jacob into Israel…an entirely different picture. But if you read it, who will think that it means that a man suddenly—this is a forecasting of what’s going to happen to every man in the world—he goes forward in a generative act and suddenly he is turned around, and his creative energies move from generation into regeneration: He’s Israel…he turns into Israel from Jacob. But when you read it on the surface, what would you get? He touched him on the thigh, and as he touched him on the thigh, it shrank, and so he limped, so from then on Jacob limped. Doesn’t mean a thing about a man limping; it means that he became impotent in this world but most potent in the divine world: He turned him around. And that is in the 32nd chapter of Genesis. But if you don’t read the words and just pursue them, you’ll be stymied and say, “What does this all mean? It means it’s nonsense.” But everything in scripture is literally true. When my arm was unveiled, it was literally unveiled. When this man came in and took off my sleeve and unveiled my arm, it was the right arm, which means victory, vindication. Then he embraced me and kissed me…after one of those that I spoke to left to tell what I had said. I was telling the story of creation and he left and betrayed me, or revealed what I said, then the authority came in and took off my sleeve. It’s lterally true as it unfolds in man. Everyone’s going to have it because everyone is Christ; there’s nothing but Christ. There’s no one in this world but Jesus Christ. Everyone is Jesus Christ. And Jesus Christ is Jacob. Jacob, Isaac, all these are prototypes and they come forward and forward and forward until they fulfill themselves as Jesus Christ. The entire Old Testament is the prophecy of Jesus Christ. So you start with Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and you come right through, and all these are moving forward until they completely unfold in one who has all the experiences. When he has all the experiences, he is Jesus Christ. And he walks this earth just like any normal person, unknown, unwanted, loved by a few, loved by his circle of friends, but completely unknown in a vast world of three billion-odd people. And then, he departs this world and he is in heaven, a power of God. He is the right hand of God, and looks upon the world and it’s all dead, and he is really in control. He’s finished what was given him to do. So he said, “I have accomplished the work thou gavest me to do. Return unto me the glory that was mine before that the world was” . In other words, he had that glory; he emptied himself of his Godhead to take upon himself this . Now he’s finished it; now return the glory that was mine. I’ve brought back something greater than I had when I emptied myself to come down here. I tell you that you are infinitely greater than you even dream of. Good night.453 ¶27

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The Remnant

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I cannot conceive that there is a greater satisfaction than sharing in the divine creative activity. There is no room for boasting, I assure you; for everything is by grace, and so we did not earn it. But we can share in this activity. As Paul said in his 3rd chapter of his 1st letter to the Corinthians, when someone proclaiming, I am of Paul and I am of Apollo, he said, “Who is Paul and who is Apollo?” He said, “I have planted and Apollo has watered, but God gives the growth”. You can plant anything and that seed will remain dormant unless God gave the growth. But, he made it quite clear that at all times in eternity there will be a remnant…always a remnant. And then he quotes the 52nd and 53rd chapters of Isaiah as he explains what he means by the remnant. When Elisha petitioned God against Israel, saying that they had killed his prophets and destroyed his altars and I alone am left…and “What did God say?” asked Paul. God said to him, “I have seven thousand men who have not bent their knee to Baal”. Then added Paul: “So too at this time there is a chosen remnant, chosen by grace. And if it is by grace, then it is not based on works; otherwise grace would no longer be grace”. So it is all by grace.452 ¶1

Yet no one knows God’s elective love…what is the secret of his election? How does he elect the remnant? So we can’t boast if we are within it. But I have every evidence in this world to make a bold claim that this is a remnant. Now, we can’t take 7,000 as 7,000 people. Seven means “spiritual perfection.” But we did not earn spiritual perfection: Fitness for the kingdom of God is the consequence not the condition of his grace. So the moment that man is called, and that is the individual, by that very call when he is embraced and has union with the Holy Spirit that fits him. Prior to that he was not; therefore, the whole is grace.452 ¶2

Now Paul asks the question—and this is most important—in his letter to the Romans, you’ll find this in 10th chapter, but the entire epistle to the Romans rests upon his argument for the paramount importance of faith. And by faith he means faith in the pattern, faith in God’s plan of salvation. For to him Christian preaching was preaching Christ not as a man but that great mystery that is Christ. Christ, as he defined him, is the power of God and the wisdom of God wrapped into a pattern, the pattern man, that will unfold within the individual. And when you hear the story, your response to that something that has happened in the world of men is the measure of your faith. That kind of faith Paul is speaking of. Not that I believe I’ll get a promotion in my job or that I will get a large sum of money or that I will inherit some estate. He’s not speaking of that kind of faith. He doesn’t deny it, but the faith of which he speaks is the faith in the pattern, the faith in what he calls Christ. But the churches have completely distorted and made of it a little icon, make it a person. And he asked, “What brings you out to see, a man that can be tossed by the wind?”452 ¶3

So now he asks the question: “How can men call upon him in whom they do not believe? And how can they believe in him of whom they’ve never heard? And how can they hear unless there is a preacher? And how can men preach unless they are sent? As it is written, ‘How beautiful are the feet of those who preach good news!’” . But not everyone heeded the gospel. As Isaiah said, speaking now…and Paul uses it in the most marvelous argument, “Lord, who has believed what he has heard from us?” Then he concludes, “Therefore faith comes from hearing, and hearing comes by preaching Christ”. He’s only speaking of the kind of thing that you hear concerning Christ. That’s the only faith of which he speaks.452 ¶4

So in the end, when he writes Timothy that he’s about to depart this world, that—“The time for my departure has come. I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith” —he means that faith, that he kept that vision of the end in time of trouble. No matter what happened to him, whether he was in prison, shipwrecked, no matter what happened he held aloft that vision, the vision of the end, these mighty works that must come to man in the end; and he kept repeating it to everyone. They are mighty works of God that come to the individual as he is about to depart from the age; not go through the little gate called death, but from this age into an entirely different age. Because he is then born from above, and birth from above means that the power of God and the wisdom of God has been born in that individual, fitting him to function consciously in an entirely different world, clothed differently. But an entirely different age; things unknown to any man here…a world but unknown. Not a thing here relates to what you see there. You perceive it, but it’s unknown until you take off this garment finally and find yourself there. So let no one ask you and try to persuade you to use any term here to describe anything in that age. Because if you try to, you confess that you are lying, that you really haven’t seen that world at all, for it is not related by anything you see here.452 ¶5

So Paul now tells them—only those who are sent can be the preacher. Others may pick it up, and trust in him, and carry it all forward. And the sent have a consciousness of being sent. They are fully aware of that moment of union with God, and they are fully aware of every event that takes place. But he doesn’t say that there are not others. Well, I can tell you from my own experience and your letters and your visions, there are others, many in this small gathering, who have been born from above. But, as we are told in the gospels, some bring forth a hundred-fold, a fully conscious state right from the very beginning to the end, others, sixty-fold, and others, thirty-fold. All are qualified to enter the kingdom of heaven on different levels of power to be exercised in that state.452 ¶6

Now, many here have not brought through the full consciousness, but I assure you from the visions that I received this week that three of you have been born from above. Not only that, but one lady who has not brought them through. She has had all but the dove.452 ¶7

Now, we’ll tell you her story. It begins—if you were with us a little while ago, not too long ago—in her vision she was coming down the coastline of California, and she asked someone to say, “Let me know when we pass Pt. Conception” and this one said, “Why, we passed that thirty miles back, that’s a way back, don’t you remember?” She felt a little foolish, a little bit sheepish about it, and then said, “Yes, I forgot.” But she did not remember the moment of conception. As another lady’s vision who had a fully conscious moment of conception, and saw all the others in that hospital, and the majority of them with only one exception other than herself were totally unaware of conception. So, she does not remember the moment of conception. But I said to her the thirty miles is really thirty years. That happened thirty years ago and therefore your birth from above is imminent.452 ¶8

Now this is what follows in her vision. “I fell asleep and just as I fell asleep, I heard a voice, and the voice said, ‘Father, Father.’ And I felt so much fatherly love for what I heard. I knew I was the Father, and I answered, ‘Yes, my son.’ And I knew I was the Father and I knew the voice that I heard was the voice of my son.” That is not an adumbration; that is the Father in you, your very being that you know yourself to be, showing you in symbolic form what has happened. This is not to happen, this has happened.452 ¶9

It’s followed by this. She said, “I simply felt the need of rest for my eyes the next day, and I cupped my eyes, and the most beautiful baby appeared before me, the infant. And then I cupped my eyes a second time and the most beautiful youth appeared”…again, confirmation of the first.452 ¶10

And then came this. She said, “I found myself in this house, and this most horrible man, a criminal, he was thief and murderer, both, ran out of the house. I started through the kitchen to intercept him on the outside. And my female companion was frightened to death and she gave reasons, which I do not remember, why I cannot go through the kitchen. There was a small, very small alcove and an unusually small little window leading out. I thought, well, I would squeeze myself through that like a serpent, and so I stuck my head through and the whole thing squeezed my body. It was so tight. There I am squeezing myself through, and suddenly it all gave way as though it were made of paper. At that moment, he rushes back into the house, this time with a jackknife in the right hand and a butcher’s knife in the left. I came behind him and held both hands and slammed the jackknife shut on his hand, cutting it. And how I did the other I do not know, but I also wounded the left hand with the butcher’s knife. And I held him firmly…when my female companion rushes in holding this enormous saw in both hands above her head. And standing before him, as I held him, she said to me, ‘Shall I saw him in half?’ At that moment I screamed, ‘No!’ and got between the two of them with my back to her, and I said, ‘I love him.’ I took him into my arms and embraced him and said, ‘I love him.’ At that moment, I looked into his face and he’s not the criminal who scared us, he was a friend of mine that I had known and respected so much, who died many years ago. And I looked into his face and here was the man that I so respected because of his integrity and his courage. I loved him in those days for his individualism.”452 ¶11

Well, read…it’s a very small poem…The Hound of Heaven. Take the first…read the whole thing…but the very end, when he is exhausted and he sits, “And the one that chased him and chased him, all through the night and through the days, down through the arches of the years, all through the labyrinthian ways of my own mind, and in the mist of tears I hid from him.” Now comes the search and the chase and the constant chase. In the very end, ‘He who bravest me bravest thee.’ He comes on to tell us that he himself is what the one is seeking: “I am he whom thou seekest.” And man discovers only in the very end of the journey that the seeming tormentor was the one he was seeking, his lover who is God the Father. So you read it, it’s a small little poem. You can get it in any works, that is, a volume of poetry.452 ¶12

But, here in this glorious thing that is what you did. Now, she would cut him down the front, from top to bottom, and cut him in half. And you threw yourself between the two, with your back to her with the saw above. When you are severed in two, which is the cutting of the curtain of the temple from top to bottom, it is done from behind. You don’t remember, but you gave your back to the lifted saw. But you don’t remember the blow any more than you remembered the conception or remembered the birth. It’s only been brought back to you in lovely imagery, beautiful imagery. But that whole thing is over, my dear. I do hope now…but your Father knows best why he kept it away from you, from the surface mind…but it would be nice to look forward to the descent of the dove. But your journey is over…you’ve had the three.452 ¶13

Now, here is another one. She’s holding a box in her hand and she knows that she is within that box. She’s holding the box, like a shoe box. It’s an elongated box and she knows that she is within the box. Then she heard her own voice—because, first of all, she knew she was in the box, but she did not know what I am or who I am. She did not know “who I am or what I am, but I’m in that box.” Then she heard her own voice coming from there and the voice said, “I am Joseph, but I cannot get out until I become Jesus.”452 ¶14

Perfect imagery, for the fulfillment of the entire thing is Jesus. Now listen to the words. The Bible begins, “In the beginning God”—the seed plot of the Bible is Genesis and Genesis ends—“in a coffin in Egypt.” Well, who is in that coffin?—Joseph. The word coffin like the word tabernacle means “an elongated, moveable place of worship, covered with a skin.” In this elongated box—all symbolism, beautiful imagery—is Joseph. Now how does the Bible end?—the end of Revelation “Come, Lord Jesus!” For the next line is only a benediction, “The grace of the Lord Jesus be upon all.” That’s a benediction…but the actual ending of the book is “Come, Lord Jesus!” Now he tells you, “I am the beginning and the end.” So God as man is buried in what we think to be a living, living body, and it’s dead. We think this is alive and it’s dead. So in this is the buried one, it’s Joseph, but he cannot get out until he becomes Jesus. Then he will break the shell and Jesus comes out. Jesus means “Jehovah.” So man becomes the Lord God Jehovah, and breaks the shell, and resurrects from that tomb. She has already had the conscious union, and so she knows she will have all these events consciously done. That is her destiny: It’ll be conscious.452 ¶15

Now, here comes another, and in her case, “I found myself in a huge domed room and I instantly knew that the dome was literally my skull, I knew it. But it never occurred to me that it would be so spacious. I found myself positioned in the back and up, in the very back and up.” And she said in her letter, “There is a room there. But I always thought it would be simply a close fitting thing. No, the whole dome was my skull and it was not closely fitting at all. And then at that moment I woke.”452 ¶16

Well, to find yourself in the skull, which is the tomb of God, and to find yourself awake, tells me right away you came out. You had to, because the minute you awake out you come. But you didn’t bring the imagery with you. But, at least you had a partial; you knew the waking, that’s resurrection, but you did not bring forward the exit from it. So, that’s the part you play. You did not completely forget, you only partially. Because there are two sides to the coin: The night of awakening is the night of birth. And so I can say to you, you have been born, born from above.452 ¶17

Then she said, “After this the world seemed to change. I looked upon the people in the world and, Neville, it’s strange to describe it, it doesn’t make sense, but no matter where I looked and saw people, the world looked like a huge great dollhouse filled with mechanized dolls. That’s all that they are, mechanized dolls.”452 ¶18

Now, she also went on in her letter to ask if certain things could be related to a major event that happened this past week in our lives. Why, certainly. Everything in this world and every event in this world contains within itself the capacity for symbolic significance. We do not always recognize it. We do not always relate it to anything that is taking place in us. But just as you said, it’s a mechanized dollhouse; everything on the outside is simply bearing witness. And it’s all just as you said, dead as all outdoors, but it’s related to something that is very much alive in us.452 ¶19

So here, we put it this way. The nation saw on TV and the nation has mourned, and internationally everyone mourned for the passing of what on the surface is a very fine man, young, cultured, educated, with everything seemingly to live for in this world…on the surface, as far as we know, a devoted family, a very close family, altogether everything, multiple millions at his beck and call, a senator. If we start now, he was first in the public eye as a lawyer; then his brother appointed him to the highest legal position in the country, Attorney General of the United States. Therefore, he’s the personification of law. Now he’s set up in his own right with the ambition to become President, the highest governmental office that we have; therefore, he’s the personification of government.452 ¶20

If you saw the funeral, no show that you could ever see produced in California or in Europe or in any part of the world could come near it in production. It was just…every second counted…and when you think they only had a matter of a day or two to arrange that production involving millions of people! On the inside of the church two hundred priests, cardinals, arch-bishops, all kinds, down to the lowly priest, but two hundred of them. The choral group, the music, everything was just on cue, with millions lining the sidewalks, and all this done in a matter of forty-eight hours maximum to put this on. When a show goes into rehearsal for weeks and sometimes months in the shooting and this is done live, without any retakes, and everything was just perfect. He is the personification of that institution. For what normal person could depart this world and find within to conduct a service of so many archbishops and cardinals? And then from our President down, and governments sent their representatives and all that…the personification of that greatest of institutions of an orthodox nature.452 ¶21

So in her case, when she saw it…I will now turn to the last chapter of Revelation: “ And those who will not believe in the Lord Jesus Christ let there be a curse upon him ”…the very last chapter. The word is anathema. But the word anathema in the Aramaic means “Come, Lord Jesus!” The churches translate that word—the King James Version leaves it un-translated—and the word next to it, which is Arabic, they leave it un-translated. The Revised Standard Version translates it as “a curse.” But they give you, if you have a good dictionary, they’ll show you it actually means literally “Come, Lord Jesus!” If they do not believe in Jesus it means “O Lord, come!” or “the Lord who is to come” or “the Lord who is coming.” But, that’s what it means.452 ¶22

So here, she turns her back upon all organizations, all laws, all customs, all institutions that would interfere with her own direct access to her God the Father. And when she made up her mind for that, she could now look dispassionately upon a scene taking place seemingly not related to her; and yet, it is telling her of her freedom, the passing of that personified, embodied institution from her mind, law from her mind, government from her mind that would interfere with her direct access to her Father. So then she’s born from above. But no one can hold onto these things and expect birth from above, for they still have an intermediary between themselves and the Source. And when you give up all and you stand alone, you and God the Father, then you’re born from above. And the next one, he reveals himself as you as God the Father; and his Son calls you Father. And like this lady, she too, feeling an intense masculine feeling, a fatherly feeling for her son, answered automatically, “Yes, my son.”452 ¶23

So here in this small audience…how quickly…so I said earlier, I can’t conceive of any greater satisfaction than knowing in the depths of one’s soul that you are sharing in a divine creative activity.452 ¶24

The thirty years, last 59th of this century, I was sent…rather, I was called and sent. Now, that is my birth from above was in ’59 and here it is now my ninth year. So it’s been now thirty-nine years since that conscious union with God and incorporation into his body, becoming one body, one Spirit with the risen Lord. And I knew the night of the birth the mission that was mine. Now I’m telling you I cannot boast for the simple reason such an undertaking as this no one who is sent commissions himself. I didn’t volunteer, I was drafted. I certainly didn’t volunteer. I was called, incorporated into the body, and sent. So he said, “How can men hear unless there is a preacher? And how can men preach unless they are sent?”.452 ¶25

So you will find in all the pulpits of the world they do not preach Christ. They discuss the issues of the day, the contemporary things. I am quite sure that yesterday morning from the pulpit across the world they are asking the question, “What must we do and can do to change this moral illness?” That’s not Christ. Tell the story over and over and over until you get a deeper and deeper response from those who hear the story. You will say, well now, you tell the same thing. Well, tell the same thing; there is no other story to tell.452 ¶26

What does it matter when the whole thing is simply a dollhouse of mechanical dolls? Are you going to be confused about this departure and that arrival and all these things? The whole thing is an externalized play bearing witness to an inner activity in the soul of man. Now, if you can see it and you become emotionally involved and weep and carry on, and feel the whole thing was a horror of horrors, you are not seeing it objectively and seeing it related to anything in you. You are tied to it, completely tied to it. But if you can see it dispassionately and see the whole thing as something external to yourself but reflecting an inner activity in you…you have departed from these that would bind you, these that would curse you.452 ¶27

For the word anathema as defined in the dictionary is “a curse that is solemnly pronounced by the ecclesiastical authorities; a curse solemnly pronounced and with it goes excommunication.”452 ¶28

Well, you’re told in scripture: “They will put you out of the synagogues…and they will murder you and they will feel that they are serving God. And they will do this because they know neither the Father, nor me”. If they knew the Father, the real Father, they would know me, for we are inseparable, therefore, they would not murder me. So they serve a false Father, a false God. They do not know the Father, they do not know the Son, and I know that from my own experience when I speak from here or on radio or on TV the arguments, because it’s in conflict with their pre-fabricated misconceptions of scripture.452 ¶29

So then I say one day you will know who you are and you will know that you are God the Father. But you will know it only because God’s only begotten Son stands before you; and before he even calls you Father, you know you’re looking into the face of your Son. And you’ve never known such love for one as you know at that moment your love for that Son. And so, God, to give you himself, had to give you his Son. How else could you be God were you not the Father of God’s only begotten Son? And so, his only begotten Son stands before you and calls you Father. Then, and only then, do you know that you’re God the Father. There’s no other way to convince man that God succeeded in his purpose, which was to give man himself, other than through the Son.452 ¶30

So, “No man knows who the Son is except the Father, and no one knows who the Father is except the Son and any one to whom the Son chooses to reveal him”. So, “No man has ever seen God; but the only Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, he has made him known” .452 ¶31

So any picture painted of God is a false God. Any picture painted of the Son is a false one. Because you do not know that you are God the Father until that Son, and when he comes no uncertainty. You look at him and there is no uncertainty in your mind concerning the relationship between yourself and the one that you behold. It’s your Son and you are his Father. Then the vision fades and you sit there, or you lie there, bewildered with this fantastic gift, called “the grace of God.” For grace means “God’s gift of himself” that was unearned and unmerited. So you are cleansed, in spite of the fact prior to that you were unworthy of receiving so marvelous a gift. But God so loved you he gave his only begotten Son, and his Son, calling you Father, reveals to you who you really are. So God’s purpose then was fulfilled.452 ¶32

So here, your response to what you hear concerning the true Christ will be the measure of your faith, your real faith. And you hear it over and over and it deepens that faith. Then you have one consuming hope and you “set your hope fully upon the grace that is coming to you at the unveiling of Christ in you”, and then you are he.452 ¶33

And it was Jesus Christ who David in the Spirit called “my Lord” and “my Lord” means “my Father.” No one seems to see it. It’s right in scripture…you can read it both in Matthew and in Luke, the 22nd of Matthew, the 20th of Luke. And here he calls him…he asks a simple question, “What think ye of the Christ?”—he doesn’t stop there—“Whose son”—he’s trying to bring out the son—“Whose son is he?” So when they reply, “The son of David,” then he asks this pertinent question, a most important question: “Why then did David in the Spirit call him my Lord? If David in the Spirit calls him my Lord, how can he be David’s son?” And so, only by David calling you “my Lord, my Father” would you ever know you are the Lord Jesus Christ.452 ¶34

So the book ends on the call and the plea, “Come, Lord Jesus!” It begins, “In the beginning God”—the first book which is the seed plot of the whole bible, which is Genesis, and ends on the note—“in a coffin in Egypt.” This world is Egypt and it’s all dead, it’s in a coffin. But the hope is fulfilled in the end: “Come, Lord Jesus!” So, all that was promised in the Old is fulfilled in the New. And the very end tells you how it’s fulfilled when he comes. When he comes into his own he is God the Father, and if he is God the Father there must be a Son.452 ¶35

So the Old Testament ends upon the note a boy, a son is his father’s honor. “If then I be a father, where is my honor?” You read it in the very 1st of Malachi. Here, a son honors his father. Well then, if I be a father, where is my son, where is my honor? Now, the book closes on that note and it opens with the genealogy of the coming of the son. And then the whole thing unfolds and the whole thing unfolds in man and the drama is the drama of the individual man and woman in this world.452 ¶36

So I can’t tell you my thrill tonight to see what is taking place. It’s all scripture, for he said, “I came down from heaven to do my Father’s will; I didn’t come to do my own will but the will of him who sent me. And this is the will of him who sent me, of all that he has given me I should lose nothing, not one. But no man comes unto me save the Father who sent me draws him”. So I do not draw consciously, I have to let it come. But the Father in me who sent me draws. And having been sent, everyone who is drawn must come as part of the great remnant. He always will have the remnant…no matter what the world does. Three and a half billion in the world today, there will be that remnant.452 ¶37

That’s how God builds his living temple and that living temple is made up of the redeemed, all woven into the one living body, the one Spirit, the one Lord, the one God and Father of all.452 ¶38

So it’s not a temple made with hands, like the cathedral you saw on the television when the drama was on—all that is made with hands. And what went into it was not printable in the sense that they bickered over dollars—how much for this stone, how much for this altar, how much for this? And all that was right down to cold, cold bargaining. That is not the temple of God. The temple of God is not made with hands. It’s living, it’s a body. It’s the body of the risen Christ, the Lord Jesus Christ. And how one being, who is not magnified to fill the earth, but one being, could contain within himself every being, eventually, and still remain one man is the great mystery. For that’s true. You fuse into it without loss of identity, and you are sent with the consciousness of what has happened. And you grow from then on more and more aware of what has happened.452 ¶39

So everyone who comes into it brings his gift and his gift is that measure of divine creative power and wisdom that he got through being reborn from above. Therefore he adds to the wisdom of God, he adds to the power of God, he adds to the luminosity of God; for you bring light, you bring power, you bring wisdom. And the body grows in wisdom, grows in creative power, grows in luminosity, and grows in light.452 ¶40

So here, it is my hope that everyone that he draws that I would have the satisfaction of hearing that they have been born from above. Beyond that it’s automatic. But why some of us do not bring it down, the Father has for a moment shut off this level where it can’t come through. But I will say to my friend who wrote his, he has been born from above. And these are not adumbrations of his. He has gone through it. I would say to him I hope that when the dove descends that at least that one comes through. But if it doesn’t, it doesn’t make any difference…you’ve been born from above.452 ¶41

And what the world will call death, when you depart this world, will not be death. There will be no restoration to a world like this. You will be in the new age, complete new age, with a body adjusted to that age, and the power equal to conscious use in that age. Glory beyond your wildest dream! You can’t compare anything in this world of death to that.452 ¶42

So, everything in this world has symbolic significance…everything that is taking place though it’s remote from you and seemingly not related. For this lady has no relationship whatsoever with the passing of this great man, but she has a memory and she knows the curse that was heaped upon her head by an invisible being. She only heard the voice. And when she asked why? the voice replied, “Because I want you.” The organization does not want anyone to escape from it; and it brings down the curse and the threat of excommunication for any departure from its own pre-fabricated misconceptions of the great mystery of Christ.452 ¶43

But you are free now. It doesn’t matter what happens to you from now to your normal departure from this world. You have been born from above, so it doesn’t really matter. If this very night you are hurt, if this night you are wounded—not physically, necessarily, but because of things in the world by those that you love most—then you’ll be able to overcome it. Because you know who you are, and you can accept anything that happens in this world. But whatever happens, it’s happening by law. The whole thing is the unfolding picture caused by internal activity and that activity within you. But now you’re not going to blame yourself for the act, no, you don’t relate it that way. But it had to show itself in some way to show you that you did reject the interference between yourself and your direct access to the Father.452 ¶44

Now let us go into the Silence.452 ¶45

* * * Now remember there is no room for boasting, because it is all by grace, grace, grace and still more grace.452 ¶46

Are there any questions, please? We will be here every Monday and Friday until the end of this month, so I think we have five lectures left. Then we’ll be gone for three months, approximately. It’s too late now to put ads in, so remember we are here every Monday and Friday until we close the last Friday in this month.452 ¶47

Q and A

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My dear, when you are sent you are given the ability to do it. I certainly did not feel qualified. I was not educated. I have no formal education. And you go back into scripture, Moses said he could not do it; he had an impediment. Paul pleaded and three times he asked to be removed; and the Lord said to him, “My grace is sufficient for you, for my strength is made perfect in weakness,” in your weakness . He claimed he, too, stuttered as Moses claimed he stuttered. Everyone who is called and sent is not qualified in their own eyes. He does not look for qualification based upon the external formal education. Because, you know when you speak he is with you, and you don’t need anything but to know that you’re sent. And you can’t face any audience and see anyone in the audience that you feel so important that it’s going to make you feel uneasy. You cannot see anyone…you respect them, you love them, because they are loved by your Father and eventually, they, too, will be born from above. But you can’t face any audience and feel in any way inferior to them, can’t do it. I am yet to meet the man since this thing happened to me…I am yet to meet anyone that I can respect because of his social, intellectual or financial background. I refuse to accept any aristocracy other than the aristocracy of the Spirit. Because everything here is dead, it will not even leave a trace. In fact, your footprint at ebb tide will last longer than the things here. Something is coming out of man that is immortal. The covering of man he sheds it as the outer covering of a grain of wheat. It’s what is in it that is being germinated and being warmed into animation: That is the immortal you. So, after a while it doesn’t really matter. You will speak to children, or you’ll speak to adults, or you’ll speak to the so-called educated and those who are not educated, it’s the same thing. Your words will come just as normally and naturally and no effort. But everyone who truly is sent never feels qualified, they feel inadequate. Because, using normal human standards, naturally, you don’t have it. And today…of course I don’t invite it anymore, but when I was first on the platform starting, because you were a little bit uneasy you invited all kinds of strange criticism…but then after a while it stops. But after the birth, it really stops. No arrogance on your part, but it completely stops after the birth. In my case it took thirty years of teaching only the law, for I knew nothing about the promise. I read it, but I couldn’t understand it until I experienced it. So, from then on I could speak from experience and not from theory. I wasn’t theorizing after that moment. I could tell anyone who was misguided who Christ really is, and the relationship between Christ who is God the Father, and the only Son, who is not Jesus at all, he is God the Father. The Son is David. And I’m not theorizing. I go back into scripture to find support for it. And without any reason whatsoever, all the priesthoods of the world will tell you that 2nd Psalm means Jesus Christ, and it doesn’t state that at all. He inspired the prophets; he is the Jehovah of the Old Testament. The very Spirit of Christ that inspired the apostles is the Spirit of the Lord God Jehovah who inspired the prophets. So he inspired the psalmist to write the words: “Thou art my Son, today I have begotten thee”. But man cannot bring himself to believe this peculiar, strange mystery that is concealed in scripture. When it happens to the individual, well, he speaks from experience. It doesn’t matter what people thought prior to that, they were only theorizing. Now they must modify their theories and change them to fit the truth. And if anyone questions my honesty or if not honesty, the truth of my vision, death will prove to them that I was telling the truth all along, but they had not the eyes to see it. I have many who will question it. Oh, they will listen and they will be attentive enough, I would say, to yield somewhat and to concede, well, an interest in my experiences, my mystical experiences, but not enough to let the truth of it change their lives. They will still hang on to that pre-fabricated misconception of Christ. They will listen, but not to that degree that is going to disturb them. If you saw this show last Saturday, you certainly saw the show of shows. Here is one simple little thing—this is no criticism, none whatsoever, for we are all compassionate, our heart goes out to the entire family—here, a man on TV, in all, this morning, I could hardly believe my ears. I’m looking at the man, who came on the show called Today’s Show. It’s a two-hour show that comes on every morning at seven and runs from seven to nine. I turn it on at seven—I always get up between five and five-fifteen anyway—so at seven o’clock I turn it on to set my watch and just to see if the thing is working right. I have an old, old clock in the living room…it’s my mother-in-law’s wedding present, well, that goes away back as you know. And this little watch that my wife gave me when I was drafted into the Army, it sort of is tired, so it loses and loses. So I just, every morning at seven I turn it on and keep on the news for about eight to nine minutes. And this morning, this sad, solemn voice, he said that no one ever knew of this tragic moment. But, here—no one knew of this—she was all alone, no one but Mrs. Kennedy, Mrs. Robert Kennedy. She was in the cathedral at night in the darkness, all alone, with the body of her loving husband. Well, here the man is telling you the story and here is Mrs. Kennedy under camera, the spotlight is on her, and she is kneeling down, she wants to get up, and you can see a shadow move in front of her to tell her, “Not yet.” While the cameras are moving on, a spotlight is on her, and the man is actually telling you she is all alone. Well, either we are all morons, or they think we are, because here is a spotlight, a baby spot coming out on her so that the whole vast cathedral is in the darkness but that one spot, she’s in black, kneeling and she tries to rise, and you can almost hear him say…and the camera continues. She tries a second time and you can see the shadow of a man moving back and giving orders. And this man on TV…well, he’s an old timer…after all, he’s been on that program for years. Is he fully conscious of the fact or really has persuaded himself that he’s addressing morons? Maybe he does because he sells the darnedest things, and if you can put those things on in the morning and get intelligent people to buy them, well, they must be moronic. But who would just…would they stop for one moment, “Where did the camera come from? Where is the shadow? Where is the light?” And she’s all alone? And he emphasizes that thing over and over, that she was all alone in this sad, sad moment with her husband’s body. And then, of course, you take leave of your senses and you say, “Well now, the world is insane.” Her description of it as a dollhouse with mechanized dolls is perfect. Good night.452 ¶49

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Imagining Creates

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25 October 1968
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Imagining Creates

Our premise is that imagining creates reality. If this is true, then imagining fulfills itself in what our life becomes. Although I have changed the words, what I have said is not new. You’ll find it in the Bible: “Whatever you desire, believe that you have received it, and you will.” That goes back 2,000 years. I could take you back another 600 years into Jeremiah to show you the same theme, the same principle. So tonight, we’ll try to not prove it to you but to explain it.448 ¶1

Until these words become part of your normal, natural currency of thought, then you will not act upon it. They must become so much a part of you it’s like breathing. So you can’t turn to the left or the right; you can’t praise or blame anyone. If you start in life behind the eight-ball, it doesn’t really matter whether you start there or start in a palace, whether you start as a poor little child or a very rich child, your life must actually externalize what you are imagining. If you don’t know this principle, you can reproduce your environment, and if that’s an unpleasant environment, reproduce it forever and forever, for you will feed your Imagination upon what the senses dictate. But if you know the principle, you can ignore the present, and if the principle is true, well then, you can go all out and simply not accept the “facts of life” as the things on which you should feed in this world.448 ¶2

Now, we do not observe imagining as we do objects. We are the reality which is named imagining…if you simply dwell upon it. No, I don’t observe it until I become one who is awake. Then I will go along with Fawcett and Fawcett said, “God”—that’s the name he gives to the causal power of the universe—“God, the Creator, is like pure imagining in ourselves. He works in the depths of our soul, underlying all of our faculties, including perception, but he streams into our surface mind least disguised in the form of productive fancy.”448 ¶3

So here, I can then observe him. If I sit quietly, and then suddenly I catch myself and say to myself as I have said to others, “A penny for your thoughts. What are you now imagining?” Well then, if I am honest with myself, it may be unpleasant. But if I am honest I know if that imaginal act caused in me some motor state…because an idea that is only an idea that is not felt produces nothing. It must be felt, it must produce motor elements. So if I catch myself and I’m combative, that’s a motor element. If I am now being congratulated or I am congratulating, that’s a motor element. If I catch myself in these moments, I know what’s going to happen in my world; unless, of course, I arrest it and revise that moment. But most of us aren’t even aware of what we are doing, and so I can almost say that we do not observe the Creator. We can catch him as he streams into the surface mind least disguised in the form of productive fancy. So, if I know what I am doing while I ride the bus, drive the car, sit at home, stand at a bar, and someone is actually, well, talking to a friend and I overhear what they’re saying, and I instantly react; but if as I react it’s not just an idea but I’m reacting and I’m moving on the inside, then wait. It has to then fulfill itself in what my life must become. This is our principle.448 ¶4

It sets every man free if he is willing to assume the responsibility, because whether he assumes it or not, it’s working anyway. And so in the end, you don’t sympathize, you simply tell the story. So that in the very end you don’t condemn them, you know that it’s an unpleasant thing they’re going through, but you can tell them of a principle and let this principle work out in their lives if they accept it.448 ¶5

Now, we’re living in a Christian world, a Christian-Jewish world. The average person you will encounter in America is either a Christian or a Jew. There would be no Christians unless there were Jews; for Christianity is the fulfillment of Judaism, it’s the climax. And so, you ask anyone in this world what I’ve asked you now, “Do you believe that imagining creates reality?” the chances are that you would get a negative response. They couldn’t believe for a moment, and yet they will tell you, “I am a Christian.” Well, if I am a Christian, then I should accept the premise that imagining does create reality. But it’s new to them. It hasn’t as yet been repeated often enough for them to actually make it a part of their thinking. But if you take them back into scripture and you read it for them in their words…but even if you read it for them in their words, they don’t really see it. They will accept it on the surface, but they don’t really believe it.448 ¶6

Last night, for instance, I have never heard Billy Graham. I have read what he has said in little magazines and I have read it in newspapers. And so I thought, well now, he’s speaking on the second coming of Christ, I’ll turn him on. It’s such a reasonable hour, 7:30; it’s prime time, it’s a local station, channel five, it’s a good, clear picture, so I will turn him on. When I turned this on, I’m amazed. Here were thousands and thousands of people listening…a thousand members in the choir…and one song where he invited all the audience to stand and sing, and the title of it was, and they repeated the words over and over, “Oh, How I Love Jesus.” Then came Billy Graham speaking on the second coming. I don’t want to be critical, but he hasn’t the slightest concept of Jesus, far less the second coming. Here are thousands of people and they’re talking about how they love Jesus…you can’t love something that you don’t know. They must first discover Jesus before they could love him. They don’t know Jesus.448 ¶7

And then at the very end comes the usual appeal. “I’m going to give you this book, just this book, you haven’t asked for it, and this is an interpretation of this book of the Bible and that book of the Bible” as he interprets it. “Just this book…and all you have to do is send in to Billy Graham, Minneapolis and then Minnesota, that’s a simple address, that’s all you do. But, said he, this program that we’re putting on here in Pittsburg is costing us $500,000 and we don’t have that sort of money. So if you are listening and you’re alone, please send in a contribution. If you’re listening and you’re not alone, then take up a collection among all who are listening and send it in.” And here comes the pitch, and this goes on night after night in a city like this for one solid week.448 ¶8

And he didn’t say one word about any second coming. He said, “If he should come now, just imagine, there would be no more cancer, there’d be no more heart failures, and none of you could die. His heaven is made up of flesh and blood…bodies in excrementitious states…yes, we’d have to have bathrooms in heaven. Can you imagine that! We’d have to. Of course, he’d make them of gold and make them of something that doesn’t corrode, but you’d have to have bathrooms if you’re still in a body that’s excrementitious. So you’d have to take in food even if it was given to you…don’t earn it…it’s given to you, so you have to assimilate it and what you can’t assimilate you have to expel, and to expel it unless you lose all sense of shame you’d have to have a bathroom. Well, on the other hand, if you don’t have any sense of shame, well then, you revert to the animal world. We all become healthy, wonderful animals…no heart failure, no cancer. And here he’s talking…I wondered is this 1968, is this the man who when he goes to the Vatican the pope receives him? On the other hand, he is equally silly concerning the mystery of Christ, so what does it matter if I call it a pope? Then he goes to the White House and he’s entertained for lunch or dinner and he is a grand, wonderful being…with not one concept of the mystery of Christ.448 ¶9

Now, tonight we will pull this right down to the earth and show you what I really mean when I tell you that you can be exactly what you want to be in this world. If you’re feeling like the devil…and I have felt like the devil, I mean physically, in the last couple of months. Now I am over it, but I couldn’t get over the fact that when I felt like hell I still was responsible for the hell in which I found myself. It wasn’t in my thyroid, it wasn’t in my heart, it wasn’t in this. If it was and they pinpointed it, I was the cause of whatever they discovered in the heart, I don’t care what it is. They put me through every test known in the book, so I had to go back and get his report. And yesterday, he said to me, “Neville, you are a dilemma.” Know what a dilemma is? A dilemma is simply that I have an argument with you and I give you two or more alternatives, I give them all to you. You choose any one you want and whatever you choose and you start on that assumption, your conclusion will be wrong no matter what it is. That’s a dilemma. And so I said, “Have you stopped beating your wife? Take either one you want.” So you can choose anything…that’s a dilemma.448 ¶10

So I went back to him after all these tests and he said, “You are a dilemma. Your blood shows one thing and the actual test on the electrical (whatever it is) shows the exact opposite, exact opposite.” What he was confirming was what in my heart I know, that if I don’t find in the depths of my soul the cause of the phenomena of my life, it is still there. I’m not going to find it in any thyroid or any heart or any liver or any kidney or anything out side of myself. That I know! Well, are we big enough to face the ultimate rather than admit it can be a secondary cause? For a secondary cause would be the thyroid, the secondary cause would be the kidney, or any organ of my body when I am wearing a body. So I put myself into this body that limits me, but I am the operant power of this body, and it cannot become causal. I am the cause, and it only reflects that which I am entertaining in my Imagination. I must not justify it. I must not excuse myself in any way…on the other hand not condemn myself. So there it is. You don’t feel well. Well now, you better get out of it. Don’t start looking in any part of your body for it; you aren’t going to find it. So you love someone and they force you through love to make all these tests. And so to please the one you love, you make all the tests. Then you come home and she says, “Now what’s wrong?” and you say, “I’m a dilemma.” And so, I’m a dilemma.448 ¶11

So here, I ask you to take the same full responsibility upon your shoulders and not pass the buck to the left or the right, not to anyone, not to an organ, not to anything in this world. You can be the being that you want to be if you will take this premise that imagining creates reality. If imagining creates reality, then I must be all Imagination just at the poet said. And if the cause of all phenomena is God, well then, God is all Imagination. And because I can imagine, then God the great Creator must be like pure imagining in myself. I can see that. But now I must test it, I must put it to the test. It’s all well and good to say it in words, but this is all new. You mean I have that responsibility? That I can by actually imagining myself what at the moment reason denies, my senses deny, everything denies actually fulfill it and bring it to pass? Well, if the premise is right yes, I will say to that yes.448 ¶12

Now, let me share with you a few wonderful letters that came this week. A lady writes, “My car needed repairs, so I stopped in, they examined it, and they said it will cost you sixty-two dollars.” When I signed the credit slip, I imagined I signed a check, no credit, I signed the check. And I never sign a check unless there is money in the bank to cover that check. This was in July. August went by, September went by, and no bill from the repair…yet I have my car. In September, a man stopped by and asked me to list his house. He wanted to sell it and was very eager to sell it. I told him that I’m not in the business anymore, but I recommended my former employer and told him to go and see him. So he went over…undoubtedly he did, I didn’t follow through, he went over. In October I received a call from my former employer saying I had a referral commission waiting for me, a check. So I went over and I got a check for sixty-eight dollars, six dollars more than the amount of my car repair.” Here it came, pressed down, shaken together and running over…in keeping with the story in the 6th of Luke, that is, like the granary when you buy grain and he shakes it all together and then he presses it down, and then it runs over. This is part of the ancient world where you had a big pocket and when you bought it, you shook it down and you pressed it down until it ran over and that’s how full…like the baker’s dozen. They always give you an extra bun when you buy twelve, and call it a baker’s dozen. Well here, she got six dollars more.448 ¶13

And then she said, “Here, in the beginning of September our neighbor came down with a heart attack and he was taken to the hospital and his wife had to be there constantly. They have a little boy, John, who lives in our house all day long anyway. He and our son were playmates and they were inseparable. So we thought, well, now we’ll take him in and all he’d do that he didn’t do before would be to have breakfast and dinner and sleep. So at the end of five weeks the father came out and then the mother came over to see me and she said, ‘Now what do I owe you?’ I said, ‘Owe? Why nothing…a haircut, maybe a dollar here, ten cents there, maybe a quarter there…it wouldn’t come to five dollars, so forget it.’” Then kiddingly she said to this lady, “Of course, if at any time in the future you have an old hundred dollar bill tucked in your purse and you don’t know what to do with it and you have no need to spend because you don’t need anything, well then, you could willingly pass it over.” She said, “That’s exactly what my husband and I agreed on to give you” and from her purse she took a hundred dollar bill and gave it. “Now,” she said, “the story is this. Before this happened, my husband and I decided that we would have a certain chair reupholstered. We called the upholsterer, he came on in and brought his materials, and we both agreed on the same pattern. He took the chair out and brought it back, it’s beautiful; and we love sitting in the chair and enjoy every moment of time that we look at it. But it was eighty-seven dollars. This $100 bill paid off the eighty-seven dollars and gave us again another thirteen dollars…pressed down, shaken together, and running over.”448 ¶14

Now, this story in the 6th of Luke comes after he tells you, “Forgive and you shall be forgiven.” In other words, if you apply this principle towards the seeming other—for there is no other in the world—and so as you begin to really use it towards the good of another, like Job when he forgot himself in his love of friends and prayed for his friends, his own captivity was lifted. All that he seemingly had lost was returned a hundred-fold. Everything that he had lost came back but multiplied a hundred-fold. So as you spend one minute thinking of another and representing the other to yourself as you would like them to be and persuading yourself of the reality of this imaginal act, you are actually forgiving the other for what he seemed to have been to himself and to his friends. You are putting him now in an entirely different state, so you’re substituting your concept of him, which is a noble concept, for the concept that he held of himself. That’s forgiveness. Forgiveness tests the individual’s ability to enter into and partake of the nature of the opposite. If I said to you, as a priest will say to someone, “I forgive you, my dear, go and sin no more,” but when he passes you on the street and he remembers what you confessed, he hasn’t forgiven. You have to completely rub it out, completely, by putting something in its place so you don’t see the other. If the present Mrs. Onassis is always seen as Mrs. Kennedy, then in the eyes of the one who sees her as Mrs. Kennedy and not Mrs. Onassis he hasn’t forgotten. It’s still the old pattern. She has to completely lose herself in the new affection, the new love, whatever it is, call it by any name. So you have to completely see it, so much that when you see it thereafter that’s all that you see and not the former state. If you always see the former state, you are tending to pull him back or pull her back into that former state. There are only states in the world.448 ¶15

Now here is another one. My friend went to Pittsburgh this summer and visited her usual friends, and her friend, Betty (she grew up as a child with Betty) they discussed this, and Betty loves all that Jan told her. Last summer, she expressed a desire to have a new organ. She wanted a Baldwin. The one she’d been playing for six years she was tired of. In fact, it was an economy model when she got it and regretted purchasing it since the day she bought it. Jan told her what to do…“As you sit down to play this that you don’t like imagine it is the one you like, it’s a Baldwin, the best you can buy and you can afford it, even though you don’t have a nickel in the bank. You have nothing in the bank but you have the new organ.” And so, she began to apply what Jan told her, which is only reminding her of what she knew, for she knew it, because Jan had told her in previous years and wrote her and called her. So it was all exposure in the past, but now a reminder. She began to apply what Jan told her…she sat at the organ and began to play.448 ¶16

Now, her father departed this world last January and she received $4,500. But her home needed repairs, so she spent the $4,500 in repairing the house. Then came a torrential rain and revealed that the roof really should have been replaced, for there were leaks in it. But, that rain that came, when she called in the roofer and asked, the roofer did not give the estimate for a while. He held up the estimate which was $1,700. In the meanwhile, she got a check for $3,500 from her father’s estate…an unexpected $3,500. She said, “Now I’ll go right down immediately to the Baldwin people and pick out my Baldwin.” She went down and she picked out a $5,000 organ. The man said to her, “Let me show you the ad that we’re now getting out, it will soon break and it’ll all be displayed pretty soon, and the one you’ve picked out for $5,000 when it goes on sale will be $4,000. $1,000 we will give you on the present old organ, therefore, it will be $3,000.” So she sat down and wrote the check for $3,000. On the day that it was installed, then comes the estimate from the roofer, $1,700, and she said, “Oh, why didn’t he give me that estimate before I bought the Baldwin because it’s important that I have a new roof.” So then she thumbed through my book The Law and The Promise, in which there are forty case histories, but she found not one that would in any way aid her. So she called Jan and Jan said to her, “There’s only one principle. There are forty there but it doesn’t matter if there are sixty or 1,000 or one, it would make no difference. It’s a principle.”448 ¶17

Then Jan told her the story that I have told you time and again (it’s not in my books) of a lady in New York City. This lady, Ann, lived up at the Ansonia at 73rd and Broadway and she’s a member of the oldest profession in the world, a lady of the evening. She came to my meetings when time allowed. So this day in question, I met her at Broadway and 73rd, and she said to me, “Neville, I want to ask you something.” “All right, Ann what is it?” She said, “I walked by a hat store and I saw this perfectly wonderful hat advertised for seventeen-fifty. Well, I so fell in love with it I applied your principle, so I took the hat in my Imagination and put it on. I walked up Broadway feeling that I was wearing the hat. On my way back, I wouldn’t look into the window to be disillusioned, so I kept the hat on my head in my Imagination. When I went home, still not to be disillusioned I took it off without looking into the mirror and put it up on top of the shelf, and then I retired. Well, the next morning the old hat is still there, but at least I had the pleasure of maybe an hour and a half of wakefulness wearing the hat. Now, ten days later I still haven’t the hat. A friend of mine called me up and said, ‘Ann, are you busy?’ I said no. ‘Well, I’d like to see you.’ And so, Ann went up to see this friend and the friend said, “I have something to give you. I do not know what possessed me, but I bought a hat and when I came home and tried it on, I wondered, you must have been insane! I wouldn’t wear that hat to a dog fight.” So she brought out the hat…not a hat, the hat…and she said, “Ann, I think it would look lovely on you!” and gave Ann the hat.” So Ann said to me, “Why didn’t God give me the money to buy the hat instead of giving it to me in the way that he gave it to me, through this friend?” I said, “Do you feel obligated?” She said no. I said, “Now look, I know exactly your work and we are adults, we can talk friend to friend. What price hat do you usually buy?” Now this is before the 2nd World War and if you can’t go back that far, may I tell you hats sold for two dollars, two-fifty, two-seventy-five and three dollars, and there were millions of hats at three dollars. She said, “Well, I would go sometimes as high as five.” I said, “Did you ever buy a seventeen dollar hat?” She said no. I said, “All right, do you owe any rent?” She said, “You’re too nosy.” I said, “I’m just curious, do you owe any rent?” She said, “Yes I owe two weeks rent.” I said, “Then you owe just about thirty-five dollars, don’t you?” She said, “Exactly thirty-five dollars.” I said, “Now if you looked down and you found hundred dollar bill while you’re admiring the hat, not having ever bought a hat that expensive, would you have bought the hat?” I said, I’ll answer for you, no! You would not have bought the hat. You would have gone back to the Ansonia, paid down thirty-five dollars, and possibly you would have paid a week or two weeks in advance to feel free. That’s what you would have done…and you would not have the hat. Now tell me, Ann, how much money must God give you to get you to buy a seventeen dollar hat? If he gave you a thousand, you’re not in the habit of buying seventeen-dollar hats, so you’d have kept the thousand. So God knows best how to give you that hat. So he gave it to you, what are you quarreling about?448 ¶18

And my friend Jan said to her, “Now that’s the story…how much money must he give you to get you to buy the organ? You regret now having spent $3,000 for the organ, because now you have the need of a new roof, and that’s $1,700. Apply the same principle toward the new roof that you did towards the organ, and it will not fail you.” So that was that story. Here is a principle. She taught her how to do it and then within a matter of moments she forgot the source of the phenomena of life. Within a moment she is confronted with the need of a new roof and forgot the principle that gave her the organ. Then reason comes in and says, “After all, it came from your father’s estate and that may be the last from the estate; that may be the closing of the book.” Reason will do it every moment of time, and then take from you this divine gift: That whatever you imagined that you possess, you will possess if you are faithful to the thing assumed. That’s the law.448 ¶19

Now a lady writes me—and this is a different one—after having told what she saw here in this room of ours after the meditation of about a week ago. It is perfectly heavenly…I won’t go into it. But she said, “That night I had a dream. I was in a huge, big what seemed to be a department store, and I found myself in the company of a very close, dear friend. The friend said to me, ‘I will watch your purse for you while you go and pick out the dress that you want.’ Well, I went through all kinds of dresses and I came upon a little rack of four dresses. They were cheap wool skirts, but lovely velvet blouses, and I wondered what designer would take such wonderful material and put it with such horrible skirts.” Well, that is all irrelevant; that is not the single jet of truth in the dream. This is it: “After shopping around, a woman came and pushed me away and she was very rude. I then went back and my friend is gone and the purse is gone. A paper bag is there, but I never thought for one moment the purse is there. So I went to the saleslady and I told the saleslady of the loss of my purse. The lady said, ‘Go back to where you left it…it may be wrapped in paper.’” So she went back and there in the brown bag was her purse. She said, “I do not care if the money is missing, and I had thirty dollars in it, but I don’t want to lose my personal papers because that’s my identity. I wouldn’t know who I am without these papers. So I went back and I found the purse and I took it to the saleslady and I opened it up in her presence. Well, the thirty dollars is gone. All my identification was there minus one little card, and I wondered what on earth did they find in taking that card, for they can’t use it, my name is on it, and that card mentions the fact that I am an ordained Unity minister.”448 ¶20

That is the central jet of truth in your dream, my dear. You have transcended…the thirty pieces of silver are very significant: the price paid for Truth. Thirty pieces and you don’t keep for what you buy…if I buy something I then give something for it. Thirty pieces were given, so thirty pieces were taken. You found the truth and transcended any ordination in this world, as nice as Unity is. All these groups are lovely groups playing their parts on certain levels of consciousness. But you are so far beyond anything that man has made. For Unity, Christian Science, Catholicism, Episcopalism and all these isms are man-made doctrine; they’re not based upon vision. Unity certainly is not based upon vision, neither is Christian Science, nor are any of these little isms. They play their parts on the level where they’re found. You, in the dream, you are told you have paid the price for Truth; for Christ is what one buys for Truth for thirty pieces of silver, and that was taken from you. The mere fact that it was taken from the purse is what you paid for it; and, therefore, the little card giving you your past, I would say, level of consciousness has been taken, too. You’re no longer an ordained minister; you have transcended this level all together and this is your level. When you’ve found him you pay for him…you bought him. So your dream is perfectly marvelous, and that which preceded it with this wonderful lake of crystal water, and then these unnumbered white birds taking flight, and you could feel the coolness of the morning air caused by the wings of the birds…all in this room. I think it’s perfectly marvelous! So thank you.448 ¶21

So here, may I tell you, you have within yourself the power to create anything in this world. Let things be as they are. Let people be what they want to be. And you have your goals. It doesn’t matter what has happened in your world, it doesn’t matter what the world tells you where you started; start from where you are. In you is the power of the universe; his name is I AM, and that is the Lord Christ Jesus. But you’ll never know it unless you test it.448 ¶22

So we are told in the 13th chapter of 2nd Corinthians, “Come test yourself and see. Do you not realize that Jesus Christ is in thee?” Well, if that challenge is given to any man, if he has any red blood in him he will take the challenge…I mean, if anyone challenged me with don’t I realize that Christ is in me? I wasn’t taught he was in me. My mother didn’t teach me that and Sunday school didn’t teach me that, and when I went to church as a young man, a young boy in Barbados, they didn’t teach me that. He was always on the outside, always some place in space other than myself.448 ¶23

And so I had to find him and when I found him I found that he is creative, that he creates in me, and my life is simply the fulfillment of my own imaginal acts. I haven’t always been wise in my choice of what I would imagine. I have imagined the most unlovely things in this world and I have reaped them. I became the fulfillment of what I was imagining, for imagining is always fulfilling its imaginal state, always. Then I began to be more alert to catch him in the process. I discovered that I could catch him: He would stream into my mind least disguised—but he’s disguised, but least disguised—in the form of my dream, my daydream, and then I’d catch him. Then when I could remember what dreams I entertained when I caught him and they were motive dreams, motive in the sense of motion, were these things making me move, well then, I knew what to expect, unless I revised it. If they were not unpleasant I didn’t revise them, and when I least expected it they came into being in my world.448 ¶24

So don’t envy anyone in this world. If this man tonight has his $500 million and a girl that possibly the whole vast social world would like to have married if they could afford that marriage, so he has her. And when you read all this nonsense in the papers that he’s a little man, only five-five, so what? All that’s envy! So he’s only five-five and he’s swarthy and he’s this and he’s that, so that’s his dream…a dream realized in his own case and it’s her dream too. I’ve always said it, I will continue to say it, Blake is perfectly right. He has a wonderful picture and he said, “More, more is the cry of the fool. Less than all is not enough.” And so in scripture we have these words, “All thine are mine and mine are thine,” not some of yours. You inherit God! God is your possession, so whatever God is if I inherit him then it’s all mine…so less than all is not enough and more, more is the cry of the fool. They are asking for more and more, and may I tell you, as long as one wants more, he never has enough.448 ¶25

So her income is estimated at some fabulous thing from a trust fund or trust funds of twenty-million dollars, so one paper said. Well, if you had twenty million dollars, you would think certainly that’s enough, but you can adjust yourself to a way of life where it isn’t enough, it just isn’t enough. Let the demands made upon you from charities, for this and the other plus the fact that you’re a fashion plate and you like being a fashion plate, you like being named as the best dressed of the ten best dressed in the world. If you like that, it’s going to cost you a fortune. But if you like it, it takes money to gratify that. Well, what’s wrong with it? I personally have no desire to be numbered among any externally well dressed. I hope I’m internally well dressed and I hope the light is blinding. I hope that garment is so powerful that they can’t stand in its presence unless they are qualified to stand there. Well, if I modify it to suit the level on which they stand, that they may see the being that I represent that I am…but certainly not on the outside.448 ¶26

So I tell you that imagining creates reality. Believe it! It is true! So again when Fawcett said that “The secret of imagining is the greatest of all problems to the solution of which the mystic aspires; for supreme power, supreme wisdom, and supreme delight lie in the far off solution of this mystery,” he knew what he was talking about. Actually the old boy knew what he was talking about. A friend of mine sent him my book and called his attention to the chapter on revision. He also sent another copy to one who was a physicist in one of the great universities of the world. The physicist wrote back the most scathing report on the book: “It’s not scientifically provable and therefore this whole thing is just trash, not worthy of any part of his library.” But, the old gentleman who was a philosopher by profession, who taught at the Oxford University, he was then in his 90s, wrote back the sweetest letter. He said, “I can only say that Neville, whoever he is I don’t know, but I read the chapter and this chapter on revision he could only have received from the Brothers, no one but the divine society could have dictated this chapter.” Now here was the old boy filled with praise for a chapter, while the scientist ridiculed it beyond measure because it is something beyond his ken, he can’t grasp it. You go into the laboratory and you put it together and so that’s that. One day he, too, will sit in this place where the doctor that I saw yesterday and he, too, will say, “You’re a dilemma.”448 ¶27

And then you’ll say to him, “Spell it for me”…chances are he may not even be able to spell it…“Well then, define it for me.” I give you all these assumptions. The blood says one thing, the thyroid man said another, that one said another. And if you take any premise, take it, you have a choice, all your conclusions are going to be wrong, because this is opposed to that. So this as an assumption will come to a different conclusion; that as an assumption will come to a different conclusion. And who is the riddle…the one who is the dilemma. But he knows, whether he finds it or not, all I can say to him is I feel a hundred percent better, much better, and you’ve done nothing. No medication change whatsoever…done nothing…and I feel so much better. So I can only say, it all is within me, whatever it is. Whether I pinpointed it or not, what does it matter? I feel better and will go blindly on until that moment in time when he says, “Now look, let’s go” and let them put it back in the dust, feed a plant with it.448 ¶28

So I ask you to take it seriously, and don’t limit yourself by anything that is happening in your world now, no matter what it is. You want to be this…well, it’s what you want not what the other thinks you should want…what do you want in this world? Well now, conceive a scene that would imply that you have it, persuade yourself that you have it, and then walk blindly on in that assumption as though it were true. May I tell you, it will come to pass; it will not fail you if you dare to assume that you are the man, the woman that you want to be, and persist in that assumption. That assumption will harden into fact.448 ¶29

Now you may say, “But, I knew someone who had that assumption and she died or he died and it wasn’t realized.” Death does not terminate life; the world does not cease to be at that moment in time when my senses cease to register it. I am restored, the world is restored, and I continue my journey. My dreams unrealized here will be realized there, because I can’t stop it. Imagining is creating reality.448 ¶30

As my sister-in-law said to me when I said there is marriage in the next world too. So you find yourself dead here, but you’re not dead, you’re alive and young and beautiful and altogether wonderful. Lawrence, my brother, was dying; he was making his exit from this world, and she in a very light vein said “I don’t want to go now, but do you think that Lawrence will be waiting for me and we’ll get married again?” Well, I was off in a light vein, too, and I said, “God is merciful, infinitely merciful!” So, let it go at that and you give any interpretation you want to what I have said. But just imagine, two people fighting through life like cats and dogs all on the show in one sense, and they want to perpetuate it? No, God is merciful, really is, and so you’ve had it. You’d have to be a stupid idiot to repeat it, to continue the nonsense until that moment in time when you’re resurrected. After resurrection there is no giving or taking in marriage; you’re above the organization of sex…a way beyond it.”448 ¶31

Now let us go into the Silence. * * * Are there any questions, please? Well, if there aren’t any, until Monday. Thank you.448 ¶32

We Came Out From the Father and Return

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We Came Out From the Father and Return

We’re closing tonight for a little while, and if you are on the mailing list, you’ll receive a notice when we reopen. We do not use your name for any purpose other than to notify you when we are in the city and where, so feel perfectly free to share with us your name and address. We do not sell it, we do not exchange it, or in any way use it for any purpose other than the purpose for which I told you…to let you know when we’re in town and where.447 ¶1

Now, I do hope that you will keep this alive forever. No one knows, really, what moment in time they’re called to depart this sphere, no one knows. I tell you I’ll be here based upon human concepts in September, but who knows? No one knows. We depart on time and we enter on time. And he who started a good work in us will continue it until he brings it to perfection; and that perfection is that he has completed the image of himself within us, and that image is now endowed with life within itself. It is no longer a simple animated form; it is a life-giving Spirit. And so, when the work is completed and it has performed certain functions in this world, well then, it departs, and he who started it knows when it will depart. So I can only say I’ll be back in September, based upon my own knowledge and possibly wish, but I do not know. And no one knows, may I tell you.447 ¶2

Now, listen carefully for this is a simple, simple—and yet it is a mystery—it’s a simple story, but it’s all a mystery. The gospel which seems to be a little story, secular story, is a mystery to be known only by revelation. “I came out from the Father and came into the world; again, I leave the world and I return to the Father.” In these four short phrases we have the pre-existence of Christ, we have the incarnation, we have his death, and we have his ascension…in these simple four phrases. Now, what does it mean? I could put this into not the first-person singular but the first-person plural, we came out. For we are told—and what I just quoted you came from the 16th of John —but we’re told in the 1st chapter of Ephesians, “He chose us in him before the foundation of the world” . So we, all of us, were chosen in him, so I could say we came out from the Father and we came into the world; again, we are leaving the world and we are going to the Father. Now, what does it mean?447 ¶3

Let me use just a simple analogy. Take a plant…the plant contains within itself all the suckers…that which we can take and transplant. While it exists within the plant it partakes of the life of the plant; but when it is transplanted, well then, that which partook of the life of the plant becomes, by the transplant, the parent. It becomes the parent. It was God’s purpose to give us himself…and God is a father. The only way he could do it is to send us out from himself; and yet he who sent us never left us, he’s within us, and like the sucker, contains within itself everything that the parent plant grew…if its flowers were red, white, blue, whatever they were. When it’s transplanted, and for a moment it seems to die…for this is the secret of life, life through death…and the seed falls into the ground and dies to be made alive. So the seed comes out containing within itself all that the parent contains. When it dies and is made alive and it grows, it is itself the parent containing everything that was in the parent stock.447 ¶4

So we came out from God and we are planted in the world of death, a world of mortality. Then, having “died” here, we became quickened, and then we grow into the parent stock. So if he was a father before we were sent out, then when we return we are the father. All are becoming one with the Father as the Father. So everything he possessed, but everything, we possess in our fullness. When the whole thing erupts and completes itself within us we are Father, containing everything in fullness that the Father contained. If he had a son, that same son—there can’t be a different son—he must be our son. Whatever happened to him then must happen to us. So this is, “I came out from the Father and came into the world; again, I leave the world and I go to the Father.” That is the great mystery as told in scripture. People think it is secular history; it is not, it is not secular history.447 ¶5

So let me share with you a story (the lady is here tonight). We will not go back into the many things that preceded this one thing, because it would confuse you if I took all the little symbolisms that preceded it. Well here, she found herself in vision and here is a train, a very long train. Then came a ladder and the ladder descended into a very dark cavern, and she peered into this depth and saw this blackness. She imagined herself aboard the train. She desired to be on that train, and so you simply imagined “I am on that train” and the minute she boarded that train it took off at an incredible speed. While it was moving up and up, she wondered about her destiny, and a voice said, “It will not be long.” Then she came out into light, startling light, a world of pinnacles, all pinnacles. Then a light penetrated her brain. It seemed to be pie shaped, which I would take from her language to be, I would say, triangular, and it penetrated her skull. Then came as the light penetrated the vision of a very tall, tall chair, from the back. Then she felt herself standing in the front of the chair, and seated in this chair is this great, great being. She said, “I cannot tell you the feeling that immersed me in love when I looked at this being. I cannot describe the sound of his voice, but he said one word to me and that word was ‘babe.’ Then I felt so small and so young in this immensity of love and these pinnacles. And then I asked, ‘What shall I do? What shall I do?’ And then, again something in me clicked and I heard a voice say and I saw what it said—it not only spoke but what it said appeared in script before me, and it said, ‘Record it.’ Then I saw you in the distance. You were far off in the distance, and I said, ‘Why, that is Neville.’ This being, seated in the chair, began to describe you in the most endearing, possessing terms as he spoke of you in this loving, tender, endearing terms. Then he said these words, ‘He is my resurrection.’ Then this statement was picked up by invisible voices and echoed and re-echoed and re-echoed all the way down time. And then I woke.”447 ¶6

Yes, she saw the Father. I am his resurrection. He buried himself in me before I came out of him…as he buried himself in you before you came out from him…and now I go back, having resurrected the Father in me. So I am the Father’s resurrection, for he unfolded within me, erupted within me. I know I am the Father, but before coming out I knew not that I was the Father. I partook of the life of the Father, but I was not individualized. There never was a time that you and I were not partaking of this tree of life, but we were not individualized.447 ¶7

We came out into this world, not voluntarily, may I tell you. “We were made subject unto futility, not willingly, but by reason of the will of him who subjected us in hope; that we would be set free from this body of death and obtain the glorious liberty of the sons of God” . And the Son of God is one with God, for he erupts into the Father. For the sucker contains within itself everything that the parent tree contained, but it will never know it until it is detached from the tree and transplanted. It dies and then it is made alive and becomes the parent, becomes the Father.447 ¶8

So here, everyone is destined to awaken as God the Father. And you will have these four mighty acts erupting within you which will spell out the being that you are. So here, in these four statements, the pre-existence is established, the pre-existence of Christ…and “Christ in you is the hope of glory” . That is the Christ of whom I speak, not some little man who walked 2,000 years ago. I speak of the mystery of Christ that is buried in every child born of woman. Here is the pre-existence of Christ. The detachment is death; he comes into the world and he dies. Now comes, after the long, long interval of death, the eruption of birth. It is the second birth, the birth from above; for the first birth from below is the birth of death…so we speak of that as death. The second as from above, which is the second born or the twice born man that is born from heaven and that is born into life. Then comes his return to the Father, which is the ascension. He comes back bearing witness to the fullness within himself of all that the parent contained, and he, himself, is now the parent, he is the Father. So all the fathers return…everyone returns.447 ¶9

“So in the last days,” it is said, “scoffers will come scoffing saying, ‘Where is the promise of his coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all things have continued as they were from the beginning of creation’”. But they do not know a day is as a thousand years with the Lord and a thousand years as a day. He gives you a cue there concerning the six days or the six thousand years—six days in his eyes would be like 6,000 years to mortal eyes. And he promises you the time will be just on time; it would not be before or after. So I tell you, you came out from the Father.447 ¶10

But while you are here, Christ who plays a certain office—and Christ is only the awakened man, the man who has been awakened—and he does not arbitrarily choose his office; he was born to fulfill that purpose. So he who plays the part of siring the world—that section of time to which he belongs and those called by the depth of his own being—did not arbitrarily choose that role at all. He was born to play that part.447 ¶11

Now, let me tell you another. This lady is here tonight, too, and so is the one of whom she speaks, and the third of whom she speaks. She said, “I found myself in this dream and Marta was with me, and here you stood before the two of us in a long black robe. We held umbrellas over us…we didn’t hold them, but they were over us…two black umbrellas, the old-fashioned with the peak. You were speaking the most profound words, the words of eternal wisdom, but you did not recognize us and you did not smile, you simply spoke the words. You showed no recognition of us and you did not smile. Then suddenly I found the two of us, Marta and myself, in a room still with the umbrellas. I said to Marta, ‘Did you understand what he said?’ and she said, ‘No.’ Suddenly, Dorothy Dix appears and she said, ‘I will explain it to you.’ Well, I was so surprised that she could explain it to us I awoke.”447 ¶12

Now, the symbolism is perfect, in a black robe and there were the black umbrellas. Black in symbolism is “the incomprehensible,” that’s really what it means. “Divine silence, eternity” is the symbol of black. In the Songs of Solomon, the bride speaks, she says, “I am black.” Now that word translated black should really be the “blackest of black,” but we have no superlative or comparative in Hebrew. To emphasize the comparative, you repeat the word, “black, black.” To make it superlative, like we do with the word holy, “holy, holy, holy.” We have no way of saying holist in Hebrew. To make it the holiest, we’ve got to take the word and repeat it three times, “Holy, holy, holy Lord God Almighty.” So this word should be repeated to the nth degree. So she said, “I am black, but comely, O daughters of Jerusalem, like the curtains of Solomon.” Read it in the 1st chapter of the Songs of Solomon . Here you are reading something that is a mystery that is incomprehensible. So she did say the right thing, “No I don’t understand it.” Well, here comes one that you would least suspect that could interpret it, and she says, “I will explain it to you” and it was so startling to her that she woke…so that no one heard what was said and no one understood…it still remains incomprehensible. But they heard it, they heard it, for I stood before them dressed in a black robe, and they with their umbrellas of black over them, listening to words, and I did not recognize them, did not smile. It was something that that mind at the moment could not grasp.447 ¶13

Now, it was preceded that night by a certain conversation following this lecture here when they went off for coffee. One said to the other, “What am I going to do for the next thirty years?” knowing that they were impregnated by the Holy Spirit. And to wait thirty years for the birth, “What am I going to do?” while the other one said, “What are you talking about? Did he not tell you that you’re blessed? What on earth are you dwelling upon…what’s thirty years when we’ve been waiting through eternity, and to know that in the short interval of thirty you depart this world—whether you are here or in some other section of it—you depart this world and enter into an entirely different age?” So that night prompted the vision and she who said to the other, “What are you talking about?” she had the vision, but she did not understand it…because I was dressed in black. Black is the mystery of mysteries. “I am black, but comely.” Don’t rub out the word comely. “I am black, but comely, O daughters of Jerusalem…black, just as black as Kedar, black as the curtains of Solomon.” This is the blackest of black, therefore, it contains divine silence, it contains eternity, and this incomprehensible secret. Yet, Dorothy comes out and says, “I’ll explain it to you.” Now don’t forget she was present by invitation at the last supper, and don’t discount that.447 ¶14

Now, another who is here tonight, and she said, “In the dream I saw two people, one I recognized but she was so pale and so thin that I was startled when I saw her. They said to me, ‘How far is it?’ I said, as far as I’m concerned for me it is only thirty minutes away, and then I woke.” Thirty minutes away, so she has conceived of the Holy Spirit. That interval is always thirty. But it’s thirty years; it’s not minutes, it’s not miles, it’s not hours, it’s years. Again, to her, what does it matter?447 ¶15

She said, “You know, all through my life I’ve never wanted things…that’s why I don’t have things. I never put my mind on things; my mind was always on this. When I first heard you, I knew that this was the truth that I was seeking. So I have worked and I have served. I thought then, I still do now, and I’ve trained my two children to serve and love in this world. I’ve made that my key, just to serve and love.” Well, at this moment, in spite of all of the popular people in the world and well known, with all their fortunes, she has been selected to receive the imprint. Because, we all came out with the ova waiting for that fertilization for it to erupt within us. So, all contain within themselves all that it takes to become like the Father, but not until it’s fertilized. We walk through the centuries bearing our egg, but the egg isn’t fertilized until that moment in time when by a certain order of selection one who is born for that purpose is used in that capacity.447 ¶16

And the office of Christ, as we told you last time, is simply that men may become sons of God by grace through union with him who is the son of God by nature. So he is born for that purpose, and then he is used for that purpose so that others may become sons of God by grace through union with him who is the son of God by nature. And it’s all supernaturally done; it’s not done on this level at all. Some remember it; most do not. That’s why I’m asking you for your visions and for your dreams, so I can tell you without any doubt in my mind when it has happened…if you tell me your visions. But tell me just as it happened. Don’t change it, don’t add to it, and don’t take from it. Don’t try to dress it up for me to make it look better. Tell me just as it happened…the most impossible dream…tell it just as it happened, and I’ll tell you my interpretation of the vision, of the dream.447 ¶17

In the meanwhile, don’t neglect the law of God, and the law of God is that assumptions harden into fact, that there is no such thing as fiction. If imagining creates reality, you can’t have fiction in this world. You can’t possibly have it. For what I imagine today I may forget, and when it appears in my world, I may not recognize my own harvest. Some unknown author this night is writing a story just in order to pay rent, and he simply sells it. It may not be successful, but he was lost in it. They may run a thousand off the press, he may run 5,000 and sell 800, and put the others up as remainders. It doesn’t matter, he did it, he created something and that in tomorrow will come to pass…and no one will recognize it.447 ¶18

Tonight’s picture, that I saw in this morning’s paper, they cancelled what was considered a too gruesome picture tonight based upon the new concept of not having too many violent pictures, but they’re putting in its place A Night to Remember. Now that picture, which was made here recently, was based upon the sinking of the Titanic. And yet in 1898 that book was written and it was called Futility. An unknown author wrote the book. And here, in 1912 The White Star Line built the ship, the duplicate of the imaginary ship that was in a novel written back in 1898. The 1898 novel’s ship sailed the Atlantic filled with rich and complacent people and he sank it on the maiden voyage on an iceberg in the Atlantic. Here, fourteen years later the so-called real ship, filled with the rich and complacent, sank on an iceberg in the month of April in the Atlantic. People say that there is fiction. There is no fiction! And if this man Walter Lord who wrote the book called A Night to Remember had not done a great research, he never would have found that little book to support this claim. He doesn’t claim it…he calls it “a strange coincidence.” There is no coincidence. I’m imagining morning, noon and night, and I set my imagining in action and it comes to pass. I may not remember what I imagine and deny that I have anything to do with what I’m reaping in my world.447 ¶19

Here, we saw this violent thing with Kennedy. And yet you read between the lines, they all as a family felt they were destined to lose their sons this way. Now, how they entertained this thought, I do not know. If someone actually spoke it in their presence and convinced them of this, I don’t know. But somewhere along the way as a family they entertained this, this sense of martyrdom, this sense of violence, and so it comes to pass. There is no accident in this world: As a man sows, so does he reap.447 ¶20

So I can actually feel I am this, that and the other, I’m entitled to it. I’m free as the wind to imagine anything in this world, but I’ll reap the results of it. Am I willing to pay the price and reap the results? So I can think I’m a good author and write the most horrible, frightful things…just an author putting these things out, but I will reap the results. I’ll bring it all back to my own being.447 ¶21

A friend, here today, wrote a letter this week too. He said, “When I was a boy of nine, I received for a present an Ouija Board, and as a child I played with it when I was alone. Naturally I asked it questions and so I wanted to know, who am I, and the board came back ‘Christ.’ Well, I was so thrilled, I believed it implicitly. But I thought as a child it meant I was Jesus reincarnated, that’s what I thought. I knew nothing of the mystery of Christ, so I took it on a literal level. When I explained myself to the ministers, the high church of the Episcopal world, they thought that was the most devilish thing in the world; and so they, naturally, educated me out of this that they called neurotic sin. And so I went around feeling that I was sinning beyond measure that I entertained this thought for so long a period of time. One night I prayed that I would have the really great sacrament. I prayed that I would have a complete absolution of this sin that separated me from God when this marvelous vision descended upon me, with the altar and everything attached to it.”447 ¶22

But these so-called wise people who go around with their long frocks and they call themselves very wise people because they can conduct a service in Latin and no one present understands one word they’re talking about. They should all read scripture…Paul said, “I’d rather speak five words that can be understood than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue” . Let them go and read scripture, and they’ll stop this nonsense, coming into an English speaking world and speaking Latin. Let them go into the Latin speaking world and speak Latin, but don’t come here where very few people understand one word outside of English, and even that poorly. So, speak the tongue in which I was born that I may understand you or be silent, instead of all this nonsense of conducting all this stupidness in Latin or in Greek, some tongue other than what those that you address understand. So it was that crowd that said to him that you have this neurotic sin and educated him out of this state when he should have continued in it; because it is Christ in you that is the hope of glory.447 ¶23

He tells you, “I tell you a mystery…Christ in you, the hope of glory. Do you not realize that Jesus Christ is in you?—unless of course you fail to meet the test! I hope you realize we have not failed in the test” . Well, what is the test? “By him all things are made and without him there’s not a thing made that is made” . Well then, who is he? I have put him to the test and I came to the conclusion that he is my Imagination. He can’t be other than my Imagination, for I imagined a state, I remained faithful to the state, and it happened. Well, if it happened and he makes all things, I can trace the maker back to my Imagination. So, “Man is all Imagination and God is man, and exists in us, and we in him. The eternal body of man is the Imagination and that is Jesus, the divine body, we are his members” . Because, if he makes all things and I imagine this, that or the other and then remaining faithful to my imaginal state it happened, well, I’ve found who he is. And he’s not something divorced from me: He is my own wonderful human Imagination.447 ¶24

So that little board moved by his own unconscious motion revealed to him who he really was. Then the so-called wise men…I know exactly what he went through, for he was the high church in the Episcopal world, and I was the low church in the Episcopal world. My mother used to tell me that the wisest men in the world are priests. She persuaded me that they were to the point of almost scaring me…to discover when I became a man and the visions began to appear within me, I knew no more stupid people. I would meet them and I thought, my lord, what a play, that through the centuries they fool the people that they are so wise, and you never met a more stupid bunch of people in the world.447 ¶25

They go around with all this palaver and call that wisdom because they can speak one little phrase in Latin. You ask them a simple thing concerning, as I told you tonight, “I came out from the Father and I came into the world; again, I am leaving the world and going to the Father.” You say, “Tell me what does it mean?” Well, they’ll tell you exactly what they read in the book, the literal meaning of that statement that this glorious being came out from the Father. “Where,” you ask them. “Don’t ask questions, my son.” And then, “He came in what way?” “Well, he came to our holy blessed mother so-and-so.” “Is that so? In what manner did he do it?” And again, “Don’t ask questions, my son. This is the great secret of the church.” At the end of your conversation you see a nut, one who doesn’t know the answers so he has to give you all kinds of confused things to bewilder you. I had that…for my thirty years on the platform I’ve had that time and time again when I’ve been on TV and radio with them. Well, what nonsense! They stand there open mouthed and open eyed, bewildered at anything you say. For when you say, “I speak from experience and you from theory, so don’t give me your theory. Tell me, have you experienced Christ? Have you found the Son of God who called you Father? Has he called you Father?” “No! That’s blasphemy!” I said, “Is that so? And you are a leader of men? You are the blind, blind leaders of the blind as foretold in scripture.”447 ¶26

So I tell you, your own wonderful human Imagination is Jesus Christ. There never was another and never will be another. One day he will awake in you and the whole thing will erupt within you, and all that was said of him you will experience in the first-person, singular, present-tense experience, and you are he. May I tell you, far from being ashamed, you are thrilled beyond measure!447 ¶27

All that you have ever done as a man, and who hasn’t done the most horrible things in this world? What man living would not be ashamed of his past? Tell me of one man that ever walked the face of this earth. If he’s a man filled with passion, filled with all the things in this world of mortality, he has done a thousand and one things for which he’s ashamed. Yet when this erupts it cleans the whole slate. You had to go through the mire, go through the muck, go through all these things in order for this seed to erupt. When it erupts, you are perfect. You are one with God who is perfect, and your whole past is wiped out as though it never were.447 ¶28

So, no such thing as earning your way into heaven; you don’t earn it by anything you do. You can hear the story and have faith in it, just have faith in the story, believe it though it hasn’t yet appeared. And then one day, the whole thing will come to you from within.447 ¶29

Then no man in this world can stand before you, regardless of his position in the secular world, and try to make you feel that you are unimportant. You simply ignore it, you don’t do anything but ignore it…he doesn’t know. He could be sitting on the throne…he doesn’t know. Tomorrow when he departs this world, he’ll be no different in the eyes of the God who started that work than the one who shined his shoes. He’ll find himself in a world just like this, in an environment best equipped for the work yet to be done in him. While you, unknown by the world, after the birth you instantly possess your immortal garment, and mortality is swallowed up by life. There is no interval.447 ¶30

So when Paul prayed, he used the plural, yes, but he wasn’t speaking for himself, he was speaking for those that he addressed…in the 5th chapter of Corinthians, and he’s speaking to them, “For now we groan in this body waiting for our heavenly body” . Now he is hoping that this will come before death appears, because death here on the twenty-eighth year will leave you still unclothed. He calls this being unclothed and you’ll find yourself naked. Not naked in the sense that the world calls it, but you’re not clothed with immortality. You still have two years to go.447 ¶31

A lady here tonight…she’s not yet twenty-eight, she will be twenty-eight, but she knows, and her memory returned in another age, another time…she said, “I recall you vividly. You haven’t changed, same face, same voice. You told me then of a Father and a Son, but I didn’t understand you. Now, here I am in this world, not yet twenty-eight, and I have had the experience; so it must have been in a previous section of time, without loss of identity, that I received the impregnation of the Holy Spirit. But it was you who taught me and you who told me of the Father and the Son. Now you’ve come to reap your harvest and I had to be born in this section of time to have the experience, and yet I’m not yet twenty-eight.”447 ¶32

I tell you, through the night I go into sections and sections of time. It’s not just here…I have other sheep not of this flock, and I must gather them all into one fold before I appear, bringing back all that I’ve done; for I must return to the Father as the Father…and all that I have done in my journey. This is the story. Well, you dwell upon it.447 ¶33

But don’t neglect the use of the principle of your wonderful Imagination. Use it lovingly on behalf of anyone in this world. And when you use it lovingly on behalf of another, you’re using it for yourself because there is no other. The whole vast world is yourself pushed out, so there is no other. You can take anyone in this world, take his request, do it, and then drop it, and see it come to pass in your world because imagining creates reality. You don’t have to burst a blood vessel or know a lot, or call the right people or do the right thing in order to progress in this world. You simply imagine that you are what you want to be. If you dare to assume you are now what you want to be and remain faithful to that assumption, in a way that no one knows that assumption will harden into fact. It works just as simply as that!447 ¶34

And while you are about your Father’s business working this principle, another work unknown to the world is taking place within you, preparing you for the fullness of time. When the fullness of time comes the impregnation comes, which only fertilizes the egg you have been bearing throughout the centuries. And then suddenly, in thirty years, it erupts and all that is said of Christ you experience in a personal, most intimate manner.447 ¶35

Now let us go into the Silence. * * * Now are there any questions, please?447 ¶36

Q and A

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Speaker

No, reincarnation as taught in the world is loss of identity. They even tell you of a change of sex. In fact, there’s a book out on Krishnamerti, put out by the Theosophical Press, and they have about 200 pictures of him as he remembers through the past, where he was a man, a woman, a this, a that, he was a Caucasian, a Negro, and all change of identity. Now he confessed after the book came out, and he was big enough to refute it, that it was all put up and that he did not say that at all. But Ledbetter and Mrs. Besant, who was head of the Society at the time, brought it out to promote him. But he was big enough after he matured and could say no to it. But the book is still in print and those who do not know of his denial of it will pick it up as fact. Reincarnation is taught as, well, I die now, lose all identity, and come through a woman’s womb once more as a little infant. That is not what the Bible teaches at all. This lady has no change of identity and as far as she is concerned I haven’t changed my identity. You simply move into another world. She died before the birth from above, the second birth spoken of in scripture: “You must be born anew (born again).” Not a little thing called reincarnation. There are only two births: One into death, putting on the mortal garment, which you carry with you throughout the centuries; and then the second birth, and the second birth takes thirty years from the impregnation, while you are wearing these garments. After that second birth, when you depart the world, instantly you are wearing an entirely new body belonging to a new age. It has not a thing to do with this world. So you will not lose your identity…in fact, the purpose of life is to individualize. Man is individualized and he tends forever towards ever greater and greater individualization. He becomes the Father and that is an individualized state. But to submerge now, and then lose my identity completely and then come back to the womb of a woman…to find myself not knowing what, where and why? No, that is not what scripture teaches. That’s what man made laws and concepts. Man sits down to work out what he thinks is a nice workable lovely philosophy of life, then he puts a stamp on it and says it was all inspired. So as he approves himself, he is now a self-appointed nut and he forms an organization, and they gather around him, and they are equally silly about it. So they appoint him as the high priest and they give him all kinds of names. We do that in all of our little earthly organizations and how we love it! Dress it up in all more and more stupid little things like feathers on the hats and all these things. We have yearly parades doing it and they love it. Well, this is not scripture. Scripture is a mystery. Not something to be concealed, for the mysteries are not matters to be kept secret, but they are truths that, I would say, are difficult to explain. They are mysterious in character. So when one has had the experience, he can tell it; until the experience you can’t unravel it. But when one sits down to work out what they call a nice, sensible way of living and they call it the ethical society, this is the way to live, it’s all based upon elevating oneself through effort and therefore acquire merit. So we find in India there are millions of people who walk the streets with their little prayer wheels. They are acquiring merit, begging for food all day long, begging others for food, but they are acquiring merit by keeping this wheel spinning. If they spin it so often in the course of a day, that is all to their credit and they expect someone to give them some marvelous reward for their spinning of the wheel. If they spin it so often they’ll get off the wheel of Karma. Speaking of India by the way, the word Krishna, which is the great Indian god, means “black, blue black.” Again, it’s a mystery, for black is the symbol of the inscrutable. But they take Krishna as a man, as something personal; they don’t use it as the inscrutable mystery of God. So they are acquiring merit. If I go to Mass every morning, oh, that’s marvelous. I am sick, get off a sickbed and go, that makes it twice as good. And so I get all these things piled upon on me…and finally, I find that it didn’t work at all, and then I go berserk and throw the whole thing over and become at least an agnostic and maybe an atheist because it didn’t work. I was looking for some reward from my tremendous efforts. And that happens in all orthodox religions. I tell you, God became man that man may become God. So take it right there. If he became me, well, where is he?—right in you. How near? Can’t be near, for nearness implies two, and he became you. Well, if he became me then he isn’t near. Then who is he?—say “I am,” that’s his name forever and forever and forever . There never was another God; there never will be another God. So God became man that man may become God. Well then, if he became me, tell me, where is he? Don’t look any place, don’t go to any priest, don’t ask any teacher, don’t ask Neville, just say, “Well, where is he and what is his name?”—I AM. Can you say I AM? Yes, “I am.” But I say, “I am John.” No, he didn’t say John, he said I AM…start right there. You say, well, “I am poor.” All right, God does everything. So you say, “I am poor,” all right, you’ll be poor, because he creates everything. You say “I am rich,” he’ll create wealth. You say, “I am healthy,” he’ll create health because he creates everything. So what are you going to put upon this great, great name of God? For he became you and you wear his name and his name is I AM. Don’t forget it! So if he is I AM, then is he limited? Are you going to limit him? Well then, limit him if you want that, if it is better for you to get down on your knees and pray to an idol on the outside, when within you is the very God you are making pray to an idol. Well, who is praying to that idol?—I am. You’ve taken God and you threw him on his knees to pray to a little man-made wooden thing. Most of these things you see on all the churches of the world are horribly made, may I tell you. All these little condolences, God; no artist could ever look at it and not blush. You go in and you buy a little figurine of Jesus. My Lord! If that’s what he looks like, forgive me, turn him away. All these little things they stick them on the wall and stick them all over the place and call that God. And you are told in the Second Commandment, “Make no graven image unto me.” But no, that’s not good business. So we make all these little things and we always employ the worst artist because the work is cheap. Then you get all these things and you sell them, and they’re all condolences. But now don’t forget the law. Go out knowing who you are! God became you for one purpose: That you may become God. But in order to become God you have to be detached from God, and yet because the whole contains everything, any part detached contains the whole within it. So the sucker contains the whole plant when the sucker is transplanted, and when it grows into a tree it is one with what it formerly was and it, itself, is the parent. Good night.447 ¶38

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The Cup of Foaming Wine

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31 May 1968
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The Cup of Foaming Wine

First, let me remind you we will be here every Monday and Friday until we close the end of June. We’re told in the Book of Psalms, “In the hand of the Lord there is a cup, with foaming wine, well mixed” . I will take the cup of salvation and call upon the name of the Lord. This cup is man’s fate; the wine is well mixed. It’s not all bitter and it’s not all sweet; it’s mixed, foaming wine, well mixed. One being takes it and in that taking, “Shall I not take the cup which the Father has given me?” . So one being takes it and we are contained in the one being, but we were contained before the foundation of the world. As we are told in Scripture, “God called us in Christ before the foundation of the world. He destined us in love to be his sons…according to the purpose of his will” . From that moment on there was no turning back. And it was a play. And we are all controlled by a power beyond ourselves who has fixed us in a vast and firm pattern. Nothing happens that is not his doing. He has a time for everything, and everything happens exactly on time.446 ¶1

We play all the parts, and in the very end, we come out and we are God. It’s the only way that God could give himself to us, that we would know we are God. This is told in the parable of the Prodigal Son . He said to him, “Son, you are always with me, and all that is mine is yours. It was fitting that we make merry and be glad, for this your brother was dead, and he is alive; he was lost and he’s found.” But the first son could not understand that. If I owned the earth, I could die of starvation for the want of a little food, though I owned it all, if I didn’t know that I owned it. Until we come out from the Father, and separate from the Father, and go through the play, we do not know we are the Father.446 ¶2

So to give me himself I must separate from the Father. And when man separates from the Father, at that very moment there is a tragedy and a triumph, a fall and a beginning of a new creation. Because complete incarnation is essential to individuality…yet this incarnation involves separation from God the Father, death, and descent into hell. We’re in hell now…this is hell.446 ¶3

We have taken the cup and drained it. Well, we drained it in Christ Jesus…and bear in mind we are all crucified with him. “It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives within me; and the life I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me” . So all together came out, and all are being formed into the image of God, moving back as God himself. But it does involve a complete forgetfulness, and as we come out we fear we never again will see our Father, who is built in from all eternity within ourselves. We can’t see him on the outside, for he’s given himself now, given himself to us. So we can’t see him on the outside. When we next see him, it’s our self; we actually awake as God the Father. And we return, and the fatted calf is ours, and the ring, and the robe, and the scepter, and everything that was given to that second son who went out. But we cannot crow, because we did not volunteer to go.446 ¶4

As we are told in the 8th chapter of Romans, that “The creature was made subject unto futility, not of his own will but by the will of him who subjected him in hope; that the creature would be set free from this bondage to corruption, and obtain the glorious liberty of the sons of God” . So we cannot crow of any bravery on our part; we were simply selected, we were chosen. So he chose us in Christ before the foundation of the world and all together fell. We are the gods who fell in the One that is God, God the Father. And so, we were told then, “You will die like men. You are gods, sons of the Most High”—but you don’t know it, you don’t know you are one with your Father, and so—“and fall as one man, O princes” . So the fall is on, but it is the beginning of a new creation, something far greater than ever before, because we are now individualized, each to know himself as God the Father.446 ¶5

Now let me share with you some of these marvelous visions that came this past week. It’s so unlike what the world thinks it’s going to be, so completely unlike it. Here, a lady writes, “I’m on a boat. I’m going down the coast of California. I turn to someone on the boat and I say to him, ‘Let me know when we pass Point Conception’…just when we pass Pt. Conception. And then, ‘Why, we passed that a way back there, thirty miles back, don’t you remember?’” She feels a little bit foolish, a little bit, I would say, unnerved, and she said to this one, “Oh yes, I do. I’d forgotten.” Point Conception passed thirty miles back. Well now, that is a measure of space, but it really is a measure of time, it was thirty years ago.446 ¶6

Now, listen to the second part of this. This happened on the 17th of May; on the 18th of May this happened. “I am in a strange home, and here I am two, not one, there are two of us. I, the real one, the Spirit being, and here one that resembles me, looks just like me, with the only difference it looks like clay. It’s the color of clay and it seems to be dead. It is standing up but it appears to be dead. It seems to be simply a shell. And then, attached to the navel of this zombie and then attached to an infant that I’m holding in my hands is this long umbilical cord—one to the navel of this zombie and one to a baby, a little infant that I’m holding in my arms. I said to myself—I only thought it, I did not voice it, I simply thought it— ‘Why, they must drive to the hospital and have the cord severed.’ At that very moment, this zombie moved as under compulsion, as though it were completely subjected to my thinking, and it moved towards the car. Then I entertained the thought, ‘I wonder if they will dirty the car?’ Then I said, ‘Certainly not…not that kind of birth’ with the emphasis on “that.” Then I thought again, ‘You must slide under the wheel’ and my thought was conveyed to her, and the body simply slid under the wheel. Then I reached over and put the baby next to her, to this body of mine. I looked at myself and it was a shell, something that was dead. And I put it next to her. Then I said to myself, ‘No need to worry, they’ll make it alright.’ Then I woke.”446 ¶7

I can say to this lady, “If it hasn’t happened since you wrote me the letter, your birth, my dear, is imminent.” Everything in it…the symbolism is perfect. Thirty miles back…and “Jesus began his ministry when he was thirty years of age.” After Pt. Conception, after conception by the Holy Spirit, one is born. In my own case, it was exactly thirty years. That’s why I told a friend of mine here it’s going to take you thirty years. At the moment she heard it she didn’t like it. She wanted it tonight, after what took place in her world. Well, I still say in my case, and I can only speak from experience, I followed the path of the pattern man. I did say…because the mystery of life must be understood in terms of faith… and therefore don’t give up. I’ll say to her—she’s not here tonight—but I would say to her, “Don’t give up.” If you feel you can shorten the interval, by all means do it. But I’m only saying that in my own case it was thirty years between that embrace of the risen Lord and my birth from above.446 ¶8

So here, this lady had passed the point of conception, thirty, well, it’s thirty years ago. But she had forgotten it, for she confessed in the second dream, “I’d forgotten that.” Don’t you know you passed it? “Oh yes, but I’d forgotten it”…so many of us do not bring it back to the surface.446 ¶9

For here is one, a friend of mine, who is here tonight, and he, in his dream, a very vivid dream, in the depths he is healing an enormous number of people. “By healing,” he said, “they were not all physical cases. In fact, the majority were not physical. But there were all kinds of things needing to be helped, and I am healing, I’m actually healing everyone. It takes me two seconds to a person, and they’re all walking away healed and very happy. They were not all physical cases. There was a group of people bringing me one after the other…and then I said to myself, ‘What am I, a healer? Am I a teacher? Just who am I?’ So I asked the group and they took a book and they opened the book, and then pointed to the right side, bottom, and here was the name of a man.” He said, “I can’t bring who the name is.” It is not in scripture. It has a great sound of a Hebraic sound, but it is not in scripture, not that name that he brought through; but the tone of the story as he read it, that this one was the most effective of all healers. And even to the end of his days when his bones were withered and dried up he was still the effective healer.446 ¶10

Then he thought, “As I contemplated on this state, that that’s not a very desirable thing; I don’t want to live a very long life just healing a bunch of people.” But he’s doing it anyway. He did it with his father. That was healing. Wasn’t a physical thing, lifting him from low man on the totem pole to the very top one in the entire area, so that he is really the outstanding one in all the Western states by his own confession in a letter that I got from him today. So here is a fantastic healing [...], that’s not physical, that was a professional healing: From the low man in his own profession to the top man in his profession, beyond this state.446 ¶11

So, in his case, I would remind him that Job, at the very end of his career, when he prayed for his friends and forgot himself, his own captivity was lifted. The fortunes that he lost in the interval all returned a hundred-fold greater; and everything that he lost, including his children, his wife, his friends, they all returned but multiplied. And his fortunes were enormous by turning from self to the help of another. For, really, in the end there is no “other,” it’s one’s self pushed out. So any time that I exercise my Imagination lovingly on behalf of another, I am actually doing it to myself. And because I’m doing it to myself I’ll find my world without taking thought just simply expanding beyond my wildest dreams. Financially, physically, everything expands in my world if I would do it in that manner. So I would say to him, it’s a marvelous thing that you did.446 ¶12

What I’m getting at is this, in his letter he said, when it came through or came to the surface mind, he couldn’t remember the name. He was desirous to remember that name, for they pointed to the name and the story attached to the name. So he went back to sleep and fell into the depths. In the depths he remembered; as he surfaced, he forgot it. Went back in and he remembered; as he surfaced he forgot it. He said, “Neville, the next morning when I woke my bed looked like a football field that had been really well played” because all night long he was going into the depths, remembering it perfectly, surfacing and forgetting. So the lady who wrote the first letter that I used tonight, she forgot that she passed that point of conception, and then admitted, “Yes, I forgot.” But she was looking forward to that moment in time when she would conceive of the Holy Spirit. She has already conceived, and it’s time for delivery. I would say to her it’s imminent.446 ¶13

Another lady here, she said, “In my dream I was explaining scripture to a young Negro man. All I can remember was this, having explained scripture I said to him, ‘Our name is the Lord God of hosts.’” Well, that’s marvelous…that when you in the depths of yourself know your name, and can turn to another one of a different race and bind yourselves together in that unity and say our name is the Lord God of hosts. Well, that’s tremendous growth and expansion in the awakening of the mind of God in man.446 ¶14

And so they came, really, in a most marvelous way, one after the other this week, as you’re all moving toward the inevitable end. So don’t falter, keep them coming, one after the other.446 ¶15

Now, I told a story about a week ago—in fact, it’s a week since I’ve been here—where this lady said that I appeared in her vision. And then, as she saw me, I gouged out my eyes and then extended them to her. Then I walked forward and with my thumbs I pressed them into her eyes, giving her eyes that could see outside of anything known to mortal minds. Then I bent over and my head grew to enormous proportions and it became transparent; and within it every living thing in the universe was contained within my head. Then I rose and my head returned to its normal size. Then I raised my right hand and then [...] the top of my head, bent over, and showed her, and the greenest of green grass was coming out of it. When I went over the first time and pressed my eyes into her eyes, I called her, Brother. She is a lady, mother of two and very much a lady, in her twenties, but very much a woman. But I called her, “Brother.”446 ¶16

Now her letter that came this week tells me that a radiant being of gold walked out of her, and it was a man. Then he turned and looked back at her. Then in the deepest bass voice, with his hand extended, he said, “Grab my hand and come on.” That morning she sat in her rocking chair and fell into a doze and the entire scene replayed itself, with one exception. She found herself in the replayed scene measuring the distance between where he stood and where she, in her body, lay. Then she heard a voice coming from within her and the voice said, “He is two weeks away.” She took it to mean that he is at the middle between where I am and where he is. Were I you, my dear, accept it literally…it should be on you now. And she’ll know who it is that came out.446 ¶17

I call you all brothers, for the simple reason we are brothers. We’re all sons of God. In this world of division, yes, we are men and women, and we are sons and daughters. But not in eternity; in eternity we are all sons of God, and together form God. So I called her advisedly in the vision, Brother. And in scripture he did not say, Go unto my sisters and tell them; he said, “Go unto my brethren and tell them I ascend unto my God and to your God, unto my Father and unto your Father” . So go to my brethren and tell them. It’s all one grand brotherhood, all. Regardless of the female garment worn today or any other garment, we’re all brothers in eternity, and together, collectively, we form “the one body, the one Spirit, the one Lord, the one God and Father of us all” .446 ¶18

Then she said, “I saw a pulsing, living organism. It was an organism but it was pulsing and living. Then I noticed a little trapdoor. Then I noticed a little man who had found the trapdoor and he opened it. Then he was being squeezed out of this pulsing organism.”446 ¶19

Now, that’s a beautiful adumbration, a forecasting of the birth. For a man comes out of what seemingly from the outside for one moment is completely sealed and closed. But there is a trapdoor, and he discovered it. He was within…no one moved it from without. He discovered it and he was within that organism. And then as he opened it, he is being squeezed out through that trapdoor. That’s what man finds. It’s within his own skull, and he awakes within his skull. He intuitively knows that at the base of his skull there is that little trapdoor, and he pushes and it does give, the stone rolls away. He comes out and he squeezes himself out. You don’t walk through that door…it’s a very narrow gate. Narrow is the gate; wide that leads to destruction, but narrow is the gate. And you come out of it as a child comes out of the womb of a woman…you squeeze out. And that’s your birth from above.446 ¶20

So here, all are moving towards the inevitable end, which is to awaken as the Lord Christ Jesus. And everyone will, may I tell you. No one will fail and no one will turn back. The wine is mixed and very [...]. As Blake so beautifully told it, “Joy and woe are woven fine, a garment for he soul divine.” It’s not all bitter and it’s not all sweet. What we have at a Jewish wedding…we always have the little sweet wine and the little bitter wine, but there’s always more in the sweet glass than there is in the bitter glass. The bride and groom must drink from these two glasses. They must take the very, very dry wine and the sweet wine. Then the rabbi puts these glasses down and crushes them…puts them under his feet and he crushes the glasses after they’ve taken both the sweet and bitter. But always more in the sweet glass than there is in the bitter glass.446 ¶21

So this is the foaming wine of the 75th chapter of the Book of Psalms. “In the hand of the Lord there is a cup, with foaming wine, well mixed.” It’s very well mixed as you go through life [...].446 ¶22

Today, I came back from a funeral…a friend of mine, a close, dear, intimate friend of mine who had everything on the surface to live for, but everything. Making $350 a week and doing what the world would envy, doing it beautifully, only thirty-three, beautiful, perfect figure, everything. And then for reasons not explained because she left no note to anyone, she simply decided to call it a day. What a blow to her parents when they all lived for her. And so, I was asked to say a few things to comfort them, because she’s not there. And so, they wondered why? What on earth would cause them to have this experience? Well, God knows. It’s not only the one who departed but those who are left have to learn the experience. So they were all very emotional and weeping and weeping. I had to point out to them that the very shortest verse in scripture is “Jesus wept.” He wept at the same moment, just like this, at a funeral for the one that he loved dearly. “And Jesus wept,” .446 ¶23

So if one could depart this world and find no one in the world to shed a tear that would be the most pathetic thing in the world. That someone could go and no one cared enough to shed one tear? That would be a horror of horrors. In other words, that would be a monster departing. But no, she did have multiple tears shed. But she had her lesson to learn, and they, by being left not able to touch her and feel her and talk to her, they had their lesson to learn…and so they learned it.446 ¶24

In the end and only in the end do we understand the play. So we are told, “According to my purpose I have called you.” And then he tells us what his purpose is, “As I willed it, so shall it be; as I have planned, so shall it stand. And my will shall not return until I have executed and accomplished the intents of my mind. In the end, in the latter days, you will understand it perfectly” . For I put the whole plan into the mind of man, called eternity: but I put it so that man cannot find out what I’ve done from the beginning until the end . In the end, man will find out.446 ¶25

The end will come suddenly upon man in a series of dramatic mystical experiences, his birth and resurrection from above; resurrection first, followed immediately by the birth. Then the discovery of the Fatherhood of God as himself because the Father’s Son calls him Father. Then the complete splitting of the curtain of the temple and it is his own body that is split. Then his ascent into the Holy of Holies in the only way that you could never get up: He goes up in a serpentine form, because he’s going into Zion. And David captures Zion by going up the stairway in a circular motion. For if we read the scripture, the way he took Zion, he could only have taken it if he built the stairway in a spiral. And so he goes into Zion, which is the Lord’s choice of his habitation. Then comes the final seal of approval with the descent of the dove upon the one who has had these three experiences, and the voice does declare that he loves you. That is the end of the drama.446 ¶26

You remain only to tell it…as Paul remained to tell it. After the whole thing was done, he had to remain to tell it. He did say he would rather depart this world and be with Christ in the risen state; but the need was greater for others, and so he had to remain in the flesh until a certain moment when he’s relieved forever, and enters the one body, the one Spirit, the one Lord, the one God and Father of all.446 ¶27

So here, that wonderful parable…someone complains, he doesn’t know he has it all, because he hasn’t journeyed. He wasn’t called, he wasn’t chosen. There are unnumbered who are not called, who are not chosen. And we complain because we suffer and we can’t afford to suffer. But we, in the Father’s eye were so loved he wanted us…knowing the horrors that we have to pass through. But with Paul, he said, “I consider the sufferings of the present time not worth comparing with the joy that is to be revealed in us” .446 ¶28

So we suffer, certainly we suffer. The loss of a child…it need not be a physical pain…but that is a more enduring pain than a physical pain. The physical pain, we can relieve it somewhat, and the chances are it will pass away in a normal span of time. But the loss of one you love dearly doesn’t pass away that way. Everything reminds you of the one that goes, especially a favorite child, thirty-three, successful in the business world, and everything to live for.446 ¶29

But who knows God’s plan? God planned it. Because he’s crucified with [...]. He said, “No one takes away my life, I lay it down myself. I have the power to lay it down and the power to lift it up again.” And so, he’s wearing my cross as he’s wearing your cross, he’s wearing every cross. But he has succeeded in his purpose. Because in one he did rise, and in others he rose, and he’s rising in this room here. He’s rising…there are those who have risen in this room, and, therefore, I say he is continuing the resurrection. Eventually all will rise and all that came out will return risen…just as God the Father had planned it.446 ¶30

Now, another one came. This is an interesting one. She said, “I’m in a large beautiful house, dimly lit. There are about, oh, several hundred people present. There was a single, I would say, aisle leading up to a stage. On the stage was an enormously large table. There were people at both ends and then the far back—not the side facing the audience—but the backside of the table…suddenly, someone said something and I looked up and there you were standing in the center of that table. Not on it, but at the center of the table, dressed in a white robe. I said to this one who drew my attention to you, ‘Why, Neville isn’t given to theatrics.’ And with that I found myself on the stage. Before I left that party I said, ‘He always is here for a lecture, not theatrics.’” So she finds herself on the stage…and then I turn to her and I’m in my civilian clothes, dressed in normal civilian clothes, and I say to her, “I’m not here to give a lecture. Come, this is the last dinner.” And then she woke. She said, “As I woke, I could not help but relate it to my pictures I’ve seen of The Last Supper.”446 ¶31

That’s something that always comes before the inevitable end, but this time the end from it all; not restoration but complete freedom…into the liberty of the sons of God. So he gives his last dinner. Now she has that…and very sweetly wrote the whole thing out for me.446 ¶32

So your visions and your dreams have been perfectly marvelous and please keep them coming. I have many when I talk on Monday night, because Monday will be based upon the world of Caesar in the use of Imagination. They will be told on Monday, this coming Monday. The subject will be “Imagining Creates Reality.” Having this on a Monday night and Friday night, people are always wondering, “Is he talking tonight about it?” and rather than come and be disappointed, they just don’t come. So I’ve taken this small ad in tomorrow’s paper to let people know once more I will be here on Mondays and Fridays that follow until the end of June. And for those who like the world of Caesar—the majority do—I’ve titled a few, one is “Imagining Creates Reality” and the second is “There Is No Fiction.” So be careful what you imagine, for there is no fiction. These are my two subjects for next week.446 ¶33

Now let us go into the Silence and get some good questions later.446 ¶34

And other questions, please?446 ¶39

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Neville, you said last time that many have had the birth and have not been able to bring it back…or some have…what would that do to the other visions? In any way affect them?446 ¶35

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I can’t conceive of the birth not being followed in the order in which I’ve told you, I can’t. Therefore, he’s forgotten all. And the same one whose letter came about not bringing back that name but in the depths of his being he knew it perfectly, as he surfaced he forgot it, there are reasons, possibly, in the whole play for him to forget the other two. Surely, from the letter that I had recently I must conclude he’s had the experience. And from my own chronological record I can see how it happened to all others. Christine had it in the same manner. Bob had it. Benny had it…he has one coming up in July, waiting anxiously for July…but he certainly had the other two in the order in which I said he would have them. And so, if the order remains this way, I can’t see how he would have one…and from what he told me, I am convinced of the birth. Well, the others…he didn’t bring through the name, therefore, he didn’t bring through the others. It’s in a way unfortunate, because it’s such a dramatic scriptural effort, a compelling thing to prove to one the truth of scripture. But, maybe his choice in this section of time is for something different.446 ¶36

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Neville, does the term “the Son” have several different meanings? Like in the Book of John, it’s stated several times that “Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.”446 ¶37

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Yes, but he also said, “I and the Father are one,” in the same book. I am the Son, but I leave the Father—so if a seed drops from me, I can’t deny it is my image. Give it the right environment and it will grow into my likeness. And so, the son goes out…he’s the seed, the creative power of God, the wisdom of God. And so, God in procession is the Son; God the eternally abiding one is the Father; the Son returning is the Holy Spirit. So when you start to return…the three are one. So we speak of the Son. But man’s literal mind thinks that our son, although he looks like his father and may even be bigger than his father, he came after his father, and that’s how the mind thinks; therefore, he is the son, he’s not the father. But in the mysteries the Son and the Father are one. “I and my Father are one” , and, “He who sees me has seen the Father. Why then do you ask me to show you the Father? Haven’t you seen the Father? You’ve been with me this long?” proving that he did not know the mystery behind the story. And it was not revealed, as scripture shows, it was not revealed to the apostles until after the resurrection, after the ascent. They did not understand scripture, for at the very end of Luke he was still explaining…and this was after his departure. “And did not our hearts burn when he opened to us the scriptures…and explained not only the law of Moses but all the prophets and the Psalms” —proving that they did not understand it until his departure. Then it happened in them, and then they understood it. So the Son and the Father are one. His Son, which is not Jesus Christ but David, called me Father. That’s the mystery. That’s where everyone…simply a stone…knocks himself against that block. They cannot believe for one moment that is truly the Son that was set up in the beginning to reveal man to himself as God the Father. “I have found in David, the son of Jesse, a man after my own heart who will do all my will” . And that is in every man. Even when it comes to someone taking their own life, it is David who does the will of the Father…carrying out “the will,” you take it. And David goes right through…he wins every battle, never lost a battle. The most horrible battle David won, because David is in man. “I have put eternity into the mind of man” and that word Olam, which is translated “eternity,” is also “the youth, the lad, the stripling.” And they call these three titles, David…all in one chapter . They speak of him as the youth, the stripling and the lad. That is “eternity” that he put into the mind of man…and he wins all the battles. Now you wouldn’t call suicide a battle that is won. It is if that is the compulsion. It takes courage to do that. People say, “Well now, she was a coward.” Coward, nothing! It takes courage to do that. That was the courage of David. When David received the order from the Lord, he never questioned the order from the Lord when he stripped himself and danced in the nude around the ark and was condemned by the daughter of Saul for his behavior unbecoming a king. But who was she to question the king? He was the king…and all the actions of the king are allowed if done by the king or if commanded by the king. Well, the King of kings commanded it, to do all the acts, and so he did everything that he was commanded. That’s David and David is buried in everyone and one day he is going to stand before you, after the explosion, and he calls you, Father. For, you were there all along and he was obeying your order in these garments that really are dead even though he lives in them. But my friend who had this experience of the birth, when they drove off together and she knew, “It’s alright now, everything’s alright.” The body was dead, it was just an empty shell. She was a living Spirit watching this thing go off.446 ¶38

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Neville, are you aware of any [...] in the Hebrew between the word for sun, the star in our solar system, and the word son, meaning a child?446 ¶40

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No, no.446 ¶41

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In many writings there have been [...] a sound connection.446 ¶42

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A sound connection? No. In Hebrew it’s Ben. Benny is the little son. So, for many words translated son…but the one most translated is Ben, Benjamin. But it’s more from the actual context of the thing itself that you arrive at the son. [...]. But only one has an actual name that means son, it’s Ben.446 ¶43

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Neville, that dream of the lady who had the zombie [...]. That’s what it meant, though, that she was a living Spirit?446 ¶44

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She was. She appeared…the whole thing…she saw that which resembled her, it looked like her. The only thing that did not resemble her—because this lady is very fair, very blonde—and this looked like clay and the color of clay. Undoubtedly [...] but not give her that color…she’s so very, very fair. But it looked like clay and it was dead, and it simply responded to her thinking, as though it were under compulsion to obey her thought. She said, “Now they must drive to the hospital to get the cord severed,” and this zombie obeyed and started moving towards the car. Then she was concerned whether it would soil the car. She corrected her thought and said, “No, it’s not that kind of birth.” Then she thought, “You’ve got to slide under (but thinking, she didn’t speak it) you’ve got to slide under the wheel,” and the zombie moved under the wheel and took up the position of the driver. So, it simply responded as she thought. So everything here moves under compulsion, but we don’t see it because we aren’t aware of the being that is in us. [...].446 ¶45

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Neville is impregnation by infinite love also a gift, as the birth, or can we do something about it?446 ¶46

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Claire, everything is a gift. No one earns salvation. That is one of the most difficult things to get over to the world, this so-called fading memory. It’s utter nonsense. You couldn’t earn grace: grace is the unmerited gift. No man in this world could by his behavior, although it is thrust upon him, he could not claim he is worthy of the gift and therefore when he received it, it was not the result of what he had done. It was the consequence of the grace that had been given when he…his [...] is simply something given by grace. So anyone who tells me that I am working towards it, I am purifying my body, purifying my thoughts, purifying all these things, all well and good. Do it, it’s nice for you. But don’t think for one moment you by any purification you’re coming near receiving grace. Grace is going to come on time. God gives it to everyone: He gives you himself. Grace is God’s gift of himself to man, unearned, unmerited. Good night.446 ¶47

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Divine Signs

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Divine Signs

Those raised in the Christian or Jewish faith are taught to believe that scripture is secular history. But I know that the story of Jesus, from his conception by the Holy Spirit to his ascension into heaven, is a sign rendered by God to those who will receive it. The visions of the Old and New Testament are unchanged, eternal realities, which are forever. One day you will encounter what appears on paper to be a person, but he will be a state of consciousness, personified.439 ¶1

When Paul recognised this truth, he said: “From now on I regard no one from a human point of view. Even though I once regarded Christ from a human point of view, I regard him thus no longer.” After the revelation Paul realised that Jesus Christ was the creative power and wisdom of God, and not a person as he had been taught. But because God became Man that Man may become God, every attribute of God – whether it be faith, called Abraham, or the power and wisdom of God, called Jesus Christ – was personified. Although addressing the Corinthians, Paul was speaking of the characters in scripture when he said: “From now on I regard no one from the human point of view.”439 ¶2

No longer able to think of Abraham as a person (as you are a person), Paul tells this story: “It is written in scripture that Abraham had two sons. One born of a slave according to the flesh, and the other born according to the promise.” Here Paul is telling you that by your physical birth you are that one born according to the flesh. But Abraham’s second son is born of a free woman, born according to the promise. Then Paul explains the allegory of the two sons, telling us that Hagar – a servant of Sarah – was given over to Abraham, who sired the child Ishmael (meaning, “His hand is against every man, and every man’s hand is against him”). Isn’t that this world? As an offspring of the slave, Hagar, we struggle to make a living, to pay rent and taxes, always trying to keep ourselves above the flood of illusion.439 ¶3

But after the vision Paul realised that there is another birth, which takes place within. Called Isaac, that second son comes from Sarah, for he is born according to the promise. This is all symbolism, for when your spiritual birth occurs a child wrapped in swaddling clothes will appear to symbolise your birth. There are two distinct births from two distinct beings. One from the womb of woman (Hagar) and the other from the skull of generic man, called Sarah. Having seen the vision and, understanding its message, Paul no longer thought of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob – or any character of scripture, including Jesus Christ – as human. Even though he formerly thought of them that way and heard their story as secular history, he regarded them thus no longer.439 ¶4

In his 3rd chapter to the Ephesians, Paul makes this statement: “When you read the Old Testament, you will perceive my insight into the mystery of Christ, which was not made known to men in other generations, but is now revealed to his holy apostles and prophets through the Spirit.” It was not known prior to its revelation in Paul that the mystery of Christ comes from within! In the same letter to the Ephesians, Paul speaks of himself and those with whom he shared the vision, saying: “It has been shown us the mystery of his will according to his purpose which he set forth as a plan in Christ, for the fullness of time.” To Paul, Christ – God’s power and wisdom – is a plan of redemption, which is crucified on humanity and will be raised from the dead.439 ¶5

I tell you now: he has made known unto me the sacred secret of his will according to his purpose, which he set forth in Christ as a plan for the fullness of time. And when that time is fulfilled, he who is buried in you will erupt and God’s purpose will be revealed.439 ¶6

The revelation of purpose gives everything meaning. You could have a million dollars and die tomorrow. Those who inherit your estate will give you lip service, but even after one generation the caring will cease and within three generations they will forget you. That is this world, but there is a plan buried in you which reveals God’s purpose and gives meaning to all life! When that plan is unveiled in you, you will know why you do what you do and dream what you dream. You will know why you have certain visions. You will realise that everything contains within itself a symbolic significance.439 ¶7

I will show you in a very simple way. Tonight you may dream that you have an intimate relationship with another. Upon awakening, ask yourself what the one you encountered represents to you, and a wonderful answer will come from the depth of your soul. You will discover that, on a certain level, they represent a glorious state.439 ¶8

For instance: I know a brilliant man who graduated from Yale at the age of 19 and remained there for many years to teach higher mathematics. As an American of many generations, he once said to me: “We should have only English speaking people in the world,” and he meant it. He was a very positive, brilliant person. If in dream you should see this man in a relationship, upon awakening you would realise he represents something positive, strong, and intellectual. Then watch, for whether one knows of the events or not, soon thereafter the one impregnated will be inspired to do something creative; for God is a creator who goes about creating, and you saw God’s creative act.439 ¶9

On this level you may think this is sordid, but that is because you do not know God’s symbolism. Speaking to everyone in the language of symbolism, that which the world may condemn is a glorious act of God. God, being protean, plays all the parts. Wearing the garment of another, you see an act which could be a horrible one, based upon your concept of that individual. But if it is a lovely act, a glorious child – such as a poem, painting, or a design for a new home – will appear out of that union. That’s all the experience means; but man is so rooted in the flesh, he gives it a Caesar’s concept, which blinds him to God’s symbolism.439 ¶10

You may or may not believe me, but the story of Jesus – from his conception by the Holy Spirit to his ascension into heaven – is simply a sign rendered by God to those who will receive it. I have fulfilled scripture. There are those who will accept my message, and those who will not. If you who believe my word and ever see me in vision in the creative act, it is because I am fertilising the story of the gospel in you. I am the father of that which is being fertilised.439 ¶11

I refer you, now to the 4th chapter of 1 Corinthians, where Paul speaks, saying: “You have unnumbered guides in Christ, but not many fathers. I became your father in Christ.” This is a mystery. Unnumbered people will tell you about Christ, based upon theory and speculation but not from experience. The King James Version calls these men instructors. Paul is saying that although there are many instructors, after his experiences are accepted he sires them.439 ¶12

Paul shared his vision, saying: “When it pleased God to reveal his son in me, I conferred not with flesh and blood.” To whom could one turn after having experienced the vision of God’s son calling him father? How could anyone tell you anything about a vision you have had? God’s son revealed himself in me, and as I tell it I draw those who will believe me. Although they may not understand, they will modify their preconceived concepts of the Christian faith to conform to what I have experienced. The union will occur and that concept will unfold within them.439 ¶13

God, being protean, uses Neville (or anyone who has unfolded the pattern within himself) and wearing that mask he has union with one who has accepted the story of salvation. Then, having fertilised it, the pattern unfolds within him.439 ¶14

In 1929 1 had union with the Risen Lord, and 30 years later, in 1959, I was born from above. If the part you are predestined to play in the body of God calls for a shorter interval, your birth may happen sooner; but my part has been a complete unfoldment of scripture, and it has taken 30 years. We are told that when Jesus began his ministry he was about thirty years of age. This does not mean thirty years after a physical birth, but thirty years after the spiritual union. When your spiritual birth will take place only the Father knows; but we are told in the Book of Habakkuk: “Every vision has its own appointed hour. It ripens, it will flower. If it be long, wait, for it is sure and it will not be late.”439 ¶15

Paul tells us there are eight levels of the body of God: the apostles, prophets, teachers, workers of miracles, and so on. If you are destined to play other than that of the apostle, then maybe the latent time between union and birth of that particular part is not the same.439 ¶16

There is no dream, no vision, without meaning, for God speaks to man through the medium of dream and unveils himself in a vision. What you experience in vision is right for that particular level of your being, but when it is reduced to this level the thought would be totally wrong. Man, having eaten of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, decides what is right and what is wrong, thereby descending into the mire of confusion. But when he turns around he discovers that nothing is either right or wrong. On a certain level it is right and on another level it is wrong. So learn to accept every level, and as you do you will ascend the tree of life to discover that every level – when viewed from there – is right when you know how to interpret it.439 ¶17

He has made known unto me the mystery of his sacred will according to his purpose, which he set forth as a plan in Christ for the fullness of time. I now know that Christ is not a person, and regard no scriptural character from the human point of view, but rather a state of consciousness personified. I once regarded Christ from the human point of view, but now I see him as the creative power of imagination and the wisdom of imagination, with a plan buried in that power. I now know I am the cross God’s power wears as His plan of salvation has unfolded in me. He awoke and resurrected himself in me, and the entire story of Jesus Christ unfolded and revealed me as God the Father.439 ¶18

I have told you my experiences. If the world will not believe me, it really doesn’t matter, for I will find my remnant – my ten per cent – who will believe my story in spite of what they formerly believed. In this audience there are those who, although they attend regularly, continue to bring their barriers with them and will not accept my story. Others, bringing their preconceived misconceptions of scripture with them, depart never to return.439 ¶19

A friend brought a lovely lady to the last lecture, at which time she told me she would take my theories under consideration. I told her they were not theories, that I speak from experience. Then she said: “But I am an ordained minister,” and I replied: “That means nothing to me. Have you had the vision of Christ? Did the one who ordained you have the vision of Christ? If not, it’s the blind leading the blind. You can’t take my theories under consideration, only what I have experienced. If it does not fit your prefabricated misconception of scripture, all well and good, but I am sharing my visions, my experiences. They are all revelations, not theory.”439 ¶20

She was very sweet, and left saying that this was her first lecture. You don’t come for one time, and hear something so radically different from what you have been trained to believe and expect to swallow it hook, line, and sinker. I would ask my friend to loan her my book, Resurrection, and have her read the chapter on resurrection.439 ¶21

It’s all documented. I have referenced the Old Testament and – like Paul – ask you to keep my interpretation of the Old Testament in mind as you read my experiences. If so, you will find light coming from what you did not formerly understand, for the pattern has awakened in me. The New Testament is the fulfillment of the Old. It’s not the other way around. The pattern, the mystery of his will, remains sealed in the Old Testament until the fullness of time, when the seal is broken and individual man resurrects, fulfilling scripture.439 ¶22

If you test your creative power on this level, the statement: “Whatsoever you desire, believe you have received it and you will,” will no longer be a great theory given lip service, but will be known from experience. Believe you are the man (or woman) you want to be. Catch the feeling that you have already arrived. Look at your world from that assumption, knowing its truth. Now, believe your assumption has its own appointed hour to flower. Persist in your belief and no power on earth can stop it from hardening into fact. This is Christianity!439 ¶23

There is no limit to your creative power. The most horrible problem will be resolved if you will but conceive a solution in your mind’s eye. Anyone can do it. It doesn’t take an Einstein to imagine a problem is resolved. Do not limit your creative power by determining the ways and means for it to come about, for imagination has at its disposal ways that are past finding out. Do not be concerned as to how, when, or where – only the end.439 ¶24

If you are in debt, what is the solution? That you win the lottery or an uncle dies and leaves you his fortune? No! The end is that you are debt-free. How would you feel if all of your bills were paid? Assume that feeling and let imagination harden that feeling into a fact!439 ¶25

Every problem has a solution. Imagine the solution and assume it is true. What would you see and do were it true? How would you feel? Persist in that feeling and in a way no one knows the solution will come to pass. There is nothing impossible to God, and God is crucified on you as your own wonderful human imagination! There never was another and there never will be another God, and all things are possible to him. If you can imagine the end, knowing all things are possible to imagination and remain faithful to that assumption as though it were true, imagination will harden into fact.439 ¶26

Remember, creative power will not operate itself. Knowing what to do is not enough. You, imagination’s operant power, must be willing to assume that things are as you desire them to be before they can ever come to pass.439 ¶27

Now, let us return to the divine signs. The Bible begins with the story of Abraham, which is an allegory – a story told as if true – leaving the one who reads it to discover its fictitious character and learn its lesson.439 ¶28

If the story of Abraham, Sarah, and their offspring Isaac, as well as the story of Abraham, Hagar and their offspring, Ishmael, are allegories, and Abraham is the father of us all – where is the reality of the story? The New Testament begins: “This is the genealogy of Jesus Christ the son of David, the son of Abraham. Abraham begot Isaac and Isaac begot Jacob and Jacob begot Judas and his brother.” lf Abraham, the source of all life, is an allegory, then everything is an allegory, including Jesus Christ; for he is the culmination of the entire genealogy that begins in the first chapter of Matthew.439 ¶29

Search and you will discover that scripture is a wonderful plan of salvation buried in Christ, God’s creative power and wisdom, who is crucified on man as his own wonderful human imagination. Knowing that the plan is contained in you, belief will awaken it. You may be completely unaware of the moment the plan was fertilised; but it must and will be fertilised by one who has awakened from the dream of life, for the plan that is to be born is spirit.439 ¶30

One who has not yet awakened can be used to bring about a beautiful poem, a play, or a wonderful story on this level; but God’s plan of salvation can only be fertilised by one who has already been raised from the dead, and God – being protean – will assume that mask to play that part.439 ¶31

Now let us go into the silence.439 ¶32

Real Meaning of Good Friday and Easter

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Real Meaning of Good Friday and Easter

[...] are really the greatest mysteries of the Christian faith and I say mysteries advisedly, for listen to the words as you read them in the 4th chapter of the Book of Mark. He turns to the inner circle, his disciples, and he said, “To you it has been given to know the mysteries of God, but for those outside everything is in parables” . The story to everyone outside of those who heard it from within is a parable. A parable is a story that is told as though it were true, leaving the one who heard it to discover its fictitious character and then learn its meaning, its lesson. Today, millions, possibly hundreds of millions, went to this three-hour service. An equal number and maybe greater will go on Sunday to Easter service, and they do not know it is parable. It’s a story of which they are totally unaware until it is given to them from within. So Paul said, “Great indeed is the mystery of our religion” . It’s a mystery, it’s a great secret.434 ¶1

Now this mystery is not something to be kept forever as a secret. It really is a matter that is mysterious in character. How can man grasp it? And when it is told, not everyone who is told it from within will accept it. For many heard it, as we are told in the 6th chapter of John, and they were considered disciples, followers, but they could not accept it, and many left him, never to walk with him again.434 ¶2

So tonight, I will take these two, for we will not meet until Monday and these two will be behind us. We’ll take them tonight and see if you can accept it. It’s entirely up to you. I’m speaking from my own personal experience. I’m not theorizing, I’m not speculating; this mystery I have experienced.434 ¶3

So we’ll take this day and here we call it the day of the crucifixion and people think now this is the day on which he died. Well, that is not what scripture teaches if you read it carefully, but certainly not what one knows from experience. “I have been crucified with Christ; it is not I who live, but Christ who lives in me; and the life I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me” . I can hang forever on the cross, but that is not his death. We think this is the death of the Son of God.434 ¶4

The death, as told us in the 27th chapter of Matthew, the 23rd of Luke, in the 15th of Mark, and they all give this as the cue of the death. Listen to the words carefully: “And he cried out again with a loud voice and yielded his Spirit. And behold, the curtain of the temple was torn in two, from top to bottom; and the earth shook and all the rocks were split” . So we are told that his death was marked by the tearing of the curtain of the temple, from top to bottom…that is his death. I can hang on the cross indefinitely, but I do not yield the Spirit until this even takes place. When that event takes place then the Lord died.434 ¶5

It’s two sides, this day, to the coin. It’s a twin event. I yield completely and then comes the complete severance of the curtain of the temple, which we’re told in scripture is the body of God. At that very moment then he ascends into the Holy of Holies. So the death is marked by the tearing of the curtain.434 ¶6

And so, how long have we all been crucified? “I have been crucified with Christ; nevertheless, I live, yet not I but Christ lives in me; and the life I now live in this flesh I live by the faith of the Son of god, who loved me and gave himself for me.” When was that gift given?—when that curtain was torn. At that moment in time, then he released me from this fall into generation, which was diversity, where I saw multiple people and didn’t recognize them as myself. I fell from unity into diversity in a world of generation and death; and then comes the splitting of the temple and at that moment I ascend into unity and regeneration.434 ¶7

And that’s the story. I fall from unity into diversity and generation, and then I ascend into unity and regeneration. This is the story of this day. But the world on the outside you are told, if you’re on the outside everything is in a parable. And they believe the parable literally, so hundreds of millions this day saw the parable as factual.434 ¶8

Now, they come into the tomb and they peered in. A young man sitting at the right said, “He is risen. You seek Jesus who was crucified. He’s risen, he’s not here. See the place where they laid him.” So in this statement you will notice the fact and the place of the resurrection; the time and the manner of resurrection he does not disclose. He only discloses the actual fact he is risen and then he discloses the place, “See the place where they laid him.” But he makes no effort to describe anything about how he was risen or what time he was risen. Here, in these two we find this fantastic mystery.434 ¶9

Now I’ll take you with me into my own personal experience and unfold it for you. But first, let me share with you what I mean about calling people into one’s circle and taking them from within and explaining it. You tell it from within. I got two letters this week from two ladies, and they’re here tonight, one written, one experienced, rather, one the 4th of this month and one on the 6th of this month.434 ¶10

This is the one on the 4th of the month. She said, “I was summoned by you, and when I came I discovered others were summoned too. I recognized in this group there was Marta and there was Marge. Others were present…that I do know, they were present. I recall Bill, my son-in-law, I recall Natalie, I recall Mignonne. Other members of the group were present, I was aware of them, but they were not vivid. But my son-in-law Bill, Natalie, Marge, Marta and Mignonne, they were present. And you called me, I was summoned. And then you called others from the group and then you addressed us, you said, ‘I am to die. I must die.’ And we were delighted, we were ecstatically happy in the announcement that you were going to die. Then you vanished. And then we returned to the group and related the story, and then we heard that you had died and that you departed.”434 ¶11

Now, two days later one of the ladies mentioned in this group had this dream…it’s in a series of three. She said, “I found myself…and you were teaching us a new language, completely new language, and I recall vividly Marta and Jan (who was the lady who had the last dream) and myself. The others were present too, but I can’t say I can bring them back before my mind’s eye, they were present, but Marta and Jan and myself. You were teaching this language and I made every effort, that is, we did, we made every effort to understand what you’re talking about and to learn it. Then I woke and wrote it down. “I went back to bed and slept, and then I dreamt this dream. Now we are using the language. You are on the side, off to the side, and you come in when we needed help. Every time we needed help in the use of this language you came in to help us. And then I woke and wrote it down. I went back to bed and slept and this was the dream. The same three…the others were present, they’re all present…but I only know Marta, Jan and myself. Then you called us forward and you said to us: ‘I must die to the flesh in order to live in you. From now on you will find me within.’ Now she said, “In the first dream we were all separate, in the second we were linked together, in the third we were one, we were actually one. We were separate in the first, linked together in the second, and then in the third we were one. And then I woke.”434 ¶12

Both ladies asked, what does it mean? On this level it’s a parable, and you might think that this thing will drop dead, because from what you said you already have me cremated. Well, if I died this night physically, it would make no difference to the story. But it’s not the outer man; I’m speaking of the inner. So you were separate, then you were linked together, and then you were one.434 ¶13

I know you ladies and I know that you would not be ecstatically happy if at this very moment I fell here and someone rushed to say, “He’s gone.” You would not be ecstatically happy; yet you were so in the vision. For it is right that you should be ecstatically happy when I die…I have to die…but I have already died. My birth…my birthday of that death was the 8th day of April, 1960, that’s when I died. I died to all generation, and all of my creative powers were completely turned around in to regeneration.434 ¶14

That’s why, night after night, I can do the work that I do, that I can create on the higher level and actually beget as God begets on the higher level. Because on that day, the 8th day of April, 1960 I was split right down, and that’s when God dies. And so, he cried with a loud voice…as he cried and yielded his spirit, then the curtain of the temple was torn from top to bottom, and the rocks were split, and the earth shook. Well, every little vertebra of the spine, that backbone of one, it split right down the middle. And then you, as told in scripture, like a serpent you move up into the Holy of Holies. That’s how the Son of man is lifted up.434 ¶15

Now he tells us in this simple little way, the 12th chapter of John: “And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, I will draw all men unto myself” . Then, adds the evangelist who is writing the story, “He said this to show by what means he would die.” He did it to show what kind of a death that would be his death when he is lifted up. Before that he is still hanging on the cross. So I can hang on the cross forever, but I do not yield the spirit, and, therefore, am I not actually moving up until I completely yield it? And that is man’s ascension. So every one is hanging on the cross—you’re all manifested in the flesh. So “I have been crucified with Christ; it is not I who live, but Christ who lives in me; and the life I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me.” So he gave himself for me—at that moment when he actually cried out, that cry as the split of the curtain. And then all of a sudden I found myself a part, or the whole I would say, of that base, and up I moved into the Holy of Holies.434 ¶16

So Good Friday is simply that moment when the curtain is split. That is the time. But how long you’ve been hanging on the cross? Well, you can say 6,000 years. And what portion of 6,000 years others have been hanging on it, who knows? But we’ve been hanging on it, for all have been crucified with him. One man fell bringing all with him, and it fell into diversity, and each looking out upon multitudes not knowing it is himself, not recognizing that the whole vast world is himself pushed out.434 ¶17

So in this dream it started with three. They were separate, then they were linked, and then they were one. Well, multiply that, the three into multitudes, and you see multitudes all separate, and then comes the linking, and then comes the unity. So, when I teach you at night it is from within.434 ¶18

So do not think for one second that the vision in any way had anything to do with the parable. I am not teaching you the parable; I am teaching you the meaning of the mystery of Christ. On this surface yes, you would say, Neville is going to die in the immediate present…and maybe I will this night…that doesn’t matter. I can go tonight, tomorrow; it’s all over as far as I’m concerned, the whole drama is over. But I remain as long as is necessary to tell it from within. My whole story is now from within. Tell you exactly what God planned, his whole purpose. It’s all within you.434 ¶19

So these are perfectly marvelous experiences from within. But we bring them back to this level and, naturally, we start to interpret them on this level, and you go amiss when you start to interpret everything. I am not teaching you on this level at all. When you meet me at night, I am not here on this level. When you conjure me from the depth of your own being, I am not on this level. I died on the 8th day of April of the year 1960, and that death is permanent. From then on I teach from within. So you are told, everything to those without is in parable; those from within, it’s the secret of the kingdom of God. And that is the story. I do not have to die any more…I died. We’re all on this cross, but we haven’t yet died.434 ¶20

Only God dies: “Unless I die thou canst not live; but if I die I shall arise again and thou with me” . Now, “Would you love one who never died for thee, or ever die for one who had not died for thee? And if God dieth not for Man and giveth not himself eternally for Man, Man could not exist” . So God dies. And everyone who is raised into him becomes one with him. And so you may know him as a person as you do, but it’s still one with God. So in that sense he dies. So I have to die to the flesh in order to live within you. And from now on you’ll find me within, not without. So the parable belongs only on this level, but its meaning is within.434 ¶21

I’m walking on the outside, yes, and I eat and drink and do all the normal things men do, marking time. But when you meet me in the depths of your own being I am not teaching anything about your good fortune here in the world of Caesar. I’ll do that, yes, hear for anyone who asks anything of me, and I will be ecstatic about it and hear good news and lovely things, and see it all come to pass in this world.434 ¶22

I took my friend David and I took my daughter just about three weeks ago. David hasn’t confirmed it, and my daughter…not what I really heard of both of them, it’s ecstatically good…but my daughter, just a little bit of news as it were. As you know—maybe you don’t—she wants to be a writer and I encourage her to be anything she wants to be, I don’t care what it is. So she worked for two years, saved her money and thought now I’ll quit and live for a year and simply not think of a job and just simply write. Well, she hasn’t really sold anything. She’s written some lovely things, but they haven’t sold. But she’s lived and I heard this lovely thing for her.434 ¶23

Well, just about, oh, I would say twenty years ago a friend of mine came home one day, “I want to give Vicki a little present.” I said alright. And he gave her ten dollars worth of stock—a hundred shares at ten cents a share. In the meanwhile he has died, he’s gone from this world. And then, through the years she bought ten dollars worth of shares, so she put it in a safe deposit box. Two weeks ago, she got a notice from a bank saying the stock is being redeemed. In the meanwhile, it was absorbed by this company, then that company and it was absorbed by another company, and finally General Dynamics notified her that they were redeeming this particular issue at twenty-two dollars a share. It was ten cents when it was given to her, so in the not distant future, because she signed the certificate and sent it off to the bank, and maybe tomorrow, maybe Monday, Tuesday she’ll get her check for a hundred shares multiplied by twenty-two dollars and odd cents.434 ¶24

So that was simply a little fringe benefit. That’s not what really I heard for either my daughter or for David. I heard something far more marvelous than that. But it’s not something to kick through the window. So she doesn’t have to be concerned, as far as she is concerned, she need not be, really, but she still has that little bit of $2,000-odd to run another few months.434 ¶25

So I will do it from the outside, too. While I’m wearing the garment on the outside, I’ll do it on the outside. But when you meet me at night in the depths of your soul, I am not speaking of anything on the outside; all of the visions, all of the dreams in which I am involved I am speaking only from within. Because I already died…I died on the 8th day of April, 1960, and don’t forget it. So when you hear of the obituary of this thing here, it’s like wearing out a suit of clothes; for the whole drama is over as far as I’m concerned.434 ¶26

Now here, we have the two great ones. We have this day, which in the parable comes first, but you’re told in scripture, the first is really last and last is first. This what comes today is really last; and what is going to happen on Sunday, which we think is last, that is first in the mysteries. We begin with the resurrection, the resurrection comes first. That is the first of the great events. And, that is one of a twin event. In fact, there are two on that very moment. First, you awake within your skull.434 ¶27

And as you’re told, in a moment, in the twinkle of an eye, at the last trumpet…“and the trumpet shall be sounded; and then we’ll be changed, all will be changed into the imperishable bodies at that last trumpet.” Well now, this is the eschatological trumpet of the 27th chapter of Isaiah, and the great trumpet is sounded, and then he gathers us one by one, O people of Israel. All the dispersed, those who went into Assyria, in the lands of Egypt, all are called back to worship in Jerusalem. But it takes the trumpet. The trumpet really means “reverberation.”434 ¶28

There is a peculiar reverberation that takes place and your head…you feel it as though every bone of the skull is going to part and just explode. Instead of exploding, you awake. It’s an awakening within yourself and then you come out. All the Bible speaks of, the emptiness of the tomb, it is empty. You’re the only one in it, so when you depart from it, well then, the thing is empty. Then you’re told, as he comes out he is born. His birth from above that comes first in the world, so the first is really last and the last first.434 ¶29

So what we are celebrating today as the first great event, it’s really the last; and what on Sunday we’re going to celebrate as the final event is the first. You begin with the resurrection. So God is buried in man.434 ¶30

And so, being buried in man it’s the story of the seed. “Unless a seed falls into the earth and dies, it remains alone; but if it dies, it brings forth much” , and this sets forth the story of life through death. And so, I will be born into an entirely different world by dying. So God dies, and the death I described just a moment ago is this tearing of the curtain. At that moment he dies…read it carefully. “And he cried out a second time in a loud voice…at that moment the curtain was split right down the middle from top to bottom,” so it coincides with his death. So, those of us who have had the splitting of the curtain of the temple from top to bottom that was the moment God died for our salvation. You are redeemed at that moment. He was hanging forever on us, with us, experiencing all the pain that we’ve ever experienced and all the joys that we ever experienced. But at that moment he gave up completely the Spirit and then we were split right down. And then as he…now he tells us: “And I, if I be lifted up, or when I am lifted up, I will draw all men unto me.” And this is the manner of my death, this is how I die. It coincides with the splitting of the temple…and his body is the temple. So my body is split right down…and that was when he died…and then he ascends. That was the ascension.434 ¶31

So, the resurrection is not the ascension. They’re separated by nine months. Not three days; nine months. The resurrection comes first and the same night comes the birth from above. So, you are born from above right on the very heels of resurrecting from within you. Then nine months later comes this day that we are now celebrating.434 ¶32

And to the whole vast Christian world it’s only a parable, but they don’t know it’s a parable. They haven’t for one moment stirred themselves to ask, why, why did it happen? And not everyone who hears it will believe it. In fact, what you are hearing this night, if I told it to the whole vast world, they’d turn their backs upon it, because they have not been called to hear it. That goes from the pope down, may I tell you. I’m not omitting the pope or the archbishop of Canterbury, or any of these so-called intelligent, brilliant minds who call themselves leaders of the religious worlds…they’re just sound asleep and they do not know it. It is to them, because they are without and if it is without, it’s a parable. Because they do not know it is a parable, so they do not question the meaning behind the parable.434 ¶33

You must first become aware that it is a parable to ask then what is its meaning, and they do not know. So the whole vast world says, “Well, don’t you believe he lived 2,000 years ago?” The minute they ask that they are in the outer world and everything’s on the outside. Then you come to believe, you actually know everything is on the inside—that your whole vast world is yourself pushed out. There’s nothing but you pushed out.434 ¶34

So her vision was perfect. It started off separate, then linked, then they were unified, they were one. So it doesn’t really matter about this little thing called a garment that I wear. Whether it goes tonight, tomorrow night, or the next night, that is irrelevant. I am telling you night after night…not everyone brings it back…but when I go to bed, it’s sound, and it’s all from within. For from that moment on I am doing the work I must do from above. And “above” and “within” are one, and “without” and “below” are one. So what is without is below, and what is within is above.434 ¶35

So he is made to say, “I am from above and you are from below and, therefore, you reject me because you’re from below. Because you are from below, you are from without.” Well, they couldn’t understand him. Who can until they have the experience?434 ¶36

So this is the great mystery of this day called the crucifixion. Every child born of woman has been crucified with God. But it doesn’t mean that the crucifixion means that he died. He didn’t die: he is crucified and he is suffering. Then comes that moment when he yields the spirit…that’s when he dies. That’s when he’s split from top to bottom. He’s been hanging on a cross for thousands of years…then comes the end.434 ¶37

When you read these wonderful scholarly works, as I read one today, he said, “Wasn’t it merciful that he only had to suffer three hours?” So this is a brilliant scholar, who knows his Greek and his Latin and his Hebrew backwards, but he cannot see it. Wasn’t it merciful, said he, in the exegesis, that he only suffered three hours and, therefore, they did not break his bones. The two who were on the sides, their bones were broken, but his bones were not broken to fulfill scripture: “Not a bone of his body was broken.” They haven’t the slightest concept what it means.434 ¶38

The bones represent the law. You can’t break God’s law: “All things bring forth after their kind.” And so, I assume that I am poor, I’ll be poor. You can’t break that law. He represents everything. He’s the fulfillment of the law and the fulfillment of the promises. But they think it means a bone of his being. So they came to break the bones and finding him already dead they didn’t break the bones that scripture may be fulfilled. And the bone only represents the laws of God that cannot be broken by a man. For this is established in the beginning: everything bears after its kind. If it’s a pear tree, it brings forth pears, if it’s a plum, plums, a berry, berries…whatever the thing is. So, all things bring forth after their kind. It’s simply the law of identical harvest .434 ¶39

You assume that you are…and you name it…I am known or I am unknown, I am wanted, I am unwanted, I am wealthy, I am poor. That is your assumption, that’s the seed, that’s the law; and you will bring forth after that kind.434 ¶40

So, when they came to him he was already gone. The curtain had been torn, and he left this sphere, and left this behind him; so they did not break his bones. So when I read that I could hardly believe I am reading correctly. Then you go back to find out who this person is, and he has all the degrees in the world behind his name, every conceivable degree that is considered the mental giant, and he is bringing in this decision on why they didn’t break the bones. But you can’t blame him, he is without, and therefore for those without, everything is in parables.434 ¶41

But unto you it was given to know the mystery of the kingdom of heaven. And “heaven is within you” , so the within-ness has been given to you. And so, it’s offered to many, but of those not everyone to whom it was given could receive it. So, he didn’t really confine it to just a few that could actually get it, he offered it to more than would accept it. Then came a small remnant that would accept it. And that’s how we go up. And everyone remains here, and he returns, and he teaches, and carries on from within.434 ¶42

So, may I tell you, from now on all your visions when I am brought in the play, in the story, although it’s ego-centric and it is Protean where you are playing all, as you know from your story, we were three, then we were linked together, and then we were one. So in the same way I am part of your own conjuring being. But from now on, bear in mind I am speaking to you from within, I am not speaking from without. I am not telling you about when this little thing will depart this world.434 ¶43

As the 39th Psalm teaches the number of our days, he doesn’t reply. When anyone tells you they know when you will go, forget it. In my father’s case, yes, I can see that. At the end he heard a vision, and he said to my brothers, “I’m going today,” and he did. That’s alright…that’s different. But to tell you in advance I’m going to go on a certain so and so, forget it…this is not part of this picture at all.434 ¶44

So this wonderful day that millions have celebrated and they do not know it’s the last day, really…this is really eschatology. This is when the curtain is torn from top to bottom. So here, it’s my desire that everyone in the not distant future has the experience. But the first one is going to be the resurrection and it’s only nine months removed from this day, for this comes last, although today comes first and Easter comes next, three days hence, it isn’t! Easter comes first and this comes nine months later, so what is nine months to wait? And so, may everyone have this perfectly wonderful experience in the not distant future that you may wait only nine months to have the splitting of the temple when you move within.434 ¶45

May I tell you, it is an entirely different world and the exercise of a power of which no one on earth knows. You can’t explain because you can’t explain. There’s not a thing on the outside to light, to make it a power. It’s all in your head. And you can move mountains by simply the exercise of a power that is coming from within you, that is your very being. And there is no way that you can describe it to satisfy the reasoning mind here. It is simply something from within, and you hear it in your head and you control it in your head. It’s your eyes, your ears, your every sense synthesized into a power. You can do anything and you do it.434 ¶46

It grows and grows and grows. It’s been now since 1960. It’s been eight years, and in that interval I can’t tell you the growth. From then on, you have the favor of infinity with you, and it grows all the time. It’s always growing, always expanding in the bosom of God.434 ¶47

Now let us go into the Silence. * * *434 ¶48

[...] more helpful if you dwell just upon what you heard this night of this fantastic mystery. “Great indeed we confess is the mystery of our religion.” The word mystery means “revealed truth.” That’s what it really means; not something that men sat down to figure out as a workable philosophy of life, but revealed. They could not in eternity have come to the conclusions of revealed truth. The whole thing is revealed. And when it’s revealed, it may turn you upside down, all that you were taught to believe. But you cannot let it go, and you must let go of what you were taught if it’s in conflict with what has been revealed. It usually is in conflict with what has been revealed. And so, you let all that you were taught go, and you hold onto what has been revealed.434 ¶49

He said, “Great indeed is this strange mystery of our religion” and he uses the word mystery no less than twenty-odd times. I’m speaking of Paul, the one who really promoted the entire idea, for his books came first in the New Testament.434 ¶50

Now are there any questions?434 ¶51

Q and A

Neville, when you’re speaking of the death of God I understand now it’s the case of the splitting of the temple, so what would you call it then, when in the beginning God died to become us?434 ¶52

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My religion is infinite power and taking upon himself the form of man. He said that he emptied himself and took upon himself the form of man, becoming obedient unto death, even the death upon the cross . So a complete, I would say, abdication. He just simply completely abdicated his infinite power and assumed the limitations of this concrete state called man, but he had not yet died; the death comes at the splitting of the temple. It’s concealed, but if you read it carefully, “And he yielded up the spirit,” and that was when he died. Now, Luke reversed it—it yields it up first and then comes the splitting. Matthew and Mark, first of all, “yielded” is a complete opposite, but it gets together, anyway. Luke makes the statement, “Into thy hands, Father, into thy hands I commit my spirit” after the splitting . Now the splitting comes first and then there’s a reversal between the three of them. Matthew and Mark agree and Luke reverses it, doesn’t really matter. It’s really together. That is when God actually died, and that was man’s eternal life. He died. In the 2nd chapter of Hebrews, “He tasted death for each,” but they use the word “might” meaning—and some use he word “should”—therefore it comes one by one. He tastes death for each one that they may have eternal life. And so, at that moment a complete blackout, and here you behold the blood, golden, liquid light, at the base of the spine, you mold into it, fuse with it, and up you go like the serpent into the Holy of Holies. “But how long, O Lord?” Well, I can’t tell anyone by looking at them on the outside how long it’s going to be. I can only use my own pattern when they tell me something how long it is going to be from then on. I know between fusion with God and my birth was thirty years. I know that union took thirty years. So I can tell anyone who will tell me of an experience that is related to that, it’s going to be thirty years. If you bring now an experience where you are born from above, I can tell you just wait five months and you will find David. Wait another four and you are going to have the experience of the splitting of the temple. Wait another two years and nine months and you’re going to have the dove. I know from the pattern as it unfolded in me, and I made records of it, and it doesn’t alter…oh, what, a moment or so? But when it comes to when the union will take place to give that thirty years, I do not know. It’s all done in the depths, and you come back to the surface and you’ve done your part, and you are not aware so that you may not be concerned. It’s all being done from within. So my work is all from within. Here it seems to be on the outside, but, really, it is from within. Good night.434 ¶53

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I Remember When

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I Remember When

When one receives a great revelation concerning the creative power of God, they cannot keep it to themselves. I do not believe that many of you ever heard this before, for it came to me many years ago. If you did hear it, hear it for the second time, and I’m quite sure you were not taking recordings of the talks. I do not think you have it on tape. But it is truly a great revelation concerning how to create in this wonderful world of ours. Many years ago I found myself in spirit in the interior of one of the great mansions on 5th Avenue in New York City, the mansions that lined the avenue at the turn of the century. These were enormous mansions. There were still a few left when I arrived in New York in 1922, with their stables a block or two blocks away between 6th and 7th…all these were down 5th Avenue. All the great financial giants, the social giants, lived in these enormous homes with full complements of servants. So here I am in the place, but I am invisible to those who are present. I am fully awake and fully alert, and there are three generations present. The oldest generation, grandfather, is invisible, but his presence permeates the entire house. The second generation, the son of this grandfather, is telling his children the story of grandfather. And this is what he said, “Your grandfather would stand on an empty lot and say, ‘I remember when this was an empty lot,’ and then he would paint a word picture of his desire for that lot so vividly that those who heard him could see it rise before their eyes.” It was this grandfather who made the fortune and left it to his children and then their children. They enjoyed this fabulous way of living because of the visions of grandfather.433 ¶1

Well, I woke and I wrote it down, and then went back to bed and I re-dreamed the dream, only with this change in it, I was the grandfather and I told the story to those, not my children or grandchildren. I told the story to those who were present. I told them that I remember when this was an empty lot and I painted it so vividly that the very stones molded themselves into the structure of that which I painted. Now here is a principle. You can use it in the most destructive way in the world or in the most constructive way.433 ¶2

You can say, I remember when this was a glorious building and look at the rubble, and remain aware of the rubble where once stood a glorious building. Or you can stand on rubble and say, I remember when it was rubble and paint your word picture in your mind’s eye of a glorious building and bring the rubble into this glorious building. You can say, I remember when he had nothing, which would imply that now he has something. You can say, I remember when he had much, which would imply that now he has little or nothing. You can say, I remember when he was a healthy, strong, handsome, wonderful person. That would imply he no longer expresses this state. You can say, I remember when he was weak and unknown and disheveled, for that would imply he is no longer unknown and disheveled. So you see what power is in this revelation. It’s entirely up to man to select what he wants to do. But man is the operant power. He makes the decision, and is responsible for his decision, and then he becomes the operant power. So there is no limit to what you can do.433 ¶3

This was revealed, as told us in the 12th chapter of the Book of Numbers: “If there be a prophet among you, I the Lord will make myself known unto him in a vision and I will speak with him in a dream” . You may ask, are you a prophet? The prophet of scripture is not one who tells you your fortune; the prophet reveals the word of God, and the true prophet fulfills it. So, yes, I have answered in the affirmative, I am. Not one who looked into a crystal ball to tell you anything, or any teacup leaves or cards or astrology, no; but I am in the sense that I have fulfilled scripture. In scripture the central figure is called the prophet. So he does not come save to fulfill scripture. But now these are revelations…not everything is recorded in scripture. We’re told in the end of John, if everything that he did was written, the world itself would not be big enough to hold the books. Now, that’s an exaggerated statement.433 ¶4

But all these are expressions concerning how to create. Here, what more simple way of telling it to man, that having nothing you stand on nothing, and then you can say, “I remember when I had nothing.” Well, that statement in itself would imply that that no longer exists. I remember when I had nothing. I remember when no one knew me. I remember when I couldn’t sell a book. I remember when I couldn’t sell anything that I wrote. I remember when I couldn’t…and you just go on naming and naming. I remember when…well, that statement in itself implies [...]. That’s the one theme that came through, and then I went back to bed, re-dreamed it, as the central figure. But I was telling the story now, “I remember when…” standing on nothing and then painting this fabulous structure, everything becoming molded into it as though it became their dream. Then I woke and here comes the second…which means the dream is affirmed. So the affirmation of a dream means it is done, it’s fixed by the Lord, as told us in the 41st chapter of the Book of Genesis . And the doubling of the dream means the thing has been fixed, it’s established—that’s law.433 ¶5

So I tell it to you now and share it with you, so you can take anything in this world and put yourself into a mood “I remember when…” and just go right through. Trust it implicitly, because it’s all your own wonderful human Imagination. That’s the creative power of God; there is no other creative power. It’s called in scripture Jesus Christ.433 ¶6

So when people say, Jesus Christ is coming again, why, Jesus Christ has never left me and can never leave me. How could he ever return? How could he ever return when he has never left me and can never leave me? Listen to the words, “Lo, I am with you always, to the end of the age” . So how on earth can I look for his return if I know you’re told in scripture this Jesus that was taken up from you shall come in the same manner as he went into heaven? He was taken up into heaven and he will come in the same manner as he was taken into heaven. Well, where is he? “The kingdom of God is within you” is what we are told when the Pharisee said, “Where is heaven?” The kingdom of God is within you, really within you. So it’s right within you. Well, if it’s within you, well, he can’t come from without. How then will he really come? For now he seems to be invisible…my Imagination seems to be invisible. Well, he’ll come…but he’s never left me…for I can’t detach myself from my imagining, I can’t do it. So then he will come. But how will he come?—when he awakens within you.433 ¶7

How do I know that he really came? Listen to the words carefully, these are the 8th of John: “If you continue in my word, you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free” . Then comes the discussion, “But we are free, we are the sons of Abraham…we have never known bondage.” He said to them, “He who commits sin is a slave of sin.” He who commits sin—we were taught to believe that if you did something wrong, no—you are missing the mark in life. Anyone who is missing the mark has not quite discovered how to move from the state in which they find themselves into the state where they cannot miss their mark. They simply become one with the state that they desire to realize. So if I can’t move out of one state into the state desired, I am committing sin…I am missing the mark regardless of what I claim about my freedom. For freedom now is the issue. “We have never known bondage.” Then he said, “If the Son makes you free, you are free indeed” ; but only if the Son makes you free…only when that Son stands before you. And no word need be said, but is said. It need not be said, any more than when your own child coming through the door need call you Father every time he comes through the door. It’s so obvious that he’s your child, and it’s so obvious to you that you are his father that words need not be said. But strangely enough, in this drama they are. But they need not be said; this wonderful relationship that is now established always has been. So when he sets you free, you are free indeed.433 ¶8

Now, in Christ is the original principle of movement, because Christ is the creative power of God, and the beginning of Creation is, “And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the deep” . Now motion cannot be detected save by a change of position relative to another object. Unless there is some fixed reference against which an object moves, you can’t say the object moved. Well now, here is the object, waste land, and now I say, “I remember when.” When I can conjure in my mind’s eye something entirely different from that which I remembered concerning this state, then I must have moved. I move relative to that waste land and that was an empty lot. I remember when. Everyone says, “Oh, he can’t last more than another month…he looks like the last month of shad.” You’re told it, and look into yourself, too, “I remember when” and then you begin to resurrect from that state. All things return that seemingly you can’t arrest, but “I remember when,” and you do this within yourself. It’s all within your own wonderful human Imagination. There is nothing but Christ and Christ is your own wonderful human Imagination. That’s God, the only God, God the Father. God the Father and God the creative power are one and the same. The same being, therefore, he’s never left me. I go to bed tonight and dream the most horrible dream. It takes my Imagination to do it, so he hasn’t left me. When I wake in the morning with memory of it, it’s the same being that the world honors, as they should, this same creative power, the one who took me through the furnaces of a horrible nightmare. Then they get fewer and fewer and fewer, and you completely awake, and you are in control of your own wonderful creative power. You go in and you see the whole world is yourself.433 ¶9

This past night, I had the most heavenly night. Not the most comforting as far as being relaxing at the end of the day, but my whole night was one of meeting all of my friends who are here and those who are gone. My brother Lawrence, here is Lawrence, my brother the doctor, who died not quite two years ago. I said, “Lawrence, you look remarkably well.” He said, “I feel it too.” Young, in his twenties, he said, “Come join me, I’m going to the beach, going for a swim.” Here is Lawrence…he’s one year and a half my junior and he looks about twenty-five, going to the beach for a swim. Not a thing in this world is more real than what I encountered last night…all of my friends. All those who are gone from this sphere are young, much younger, healthy, wholesome, going through the same things they did here—loving, liking, disliking, yes, even hating, indifference. The same people, only they are restored and they are young, with the same problems that we have here. Yet I knew exactly what I am doing. Lawrence was not aware of the fact that I had not yet joined him by going through that little gate the world calls death. I was fully aware that I had already “died” and I’m among them as a spirit but physical to them and communicating with all of them. I couldn’t close my eyes before the whole thing started all over again, and that was my whole, whole night. Seven hours of just living in this world. It’s not what the world calls this world, and yet it is this world.433 ¶10

Now, when we begin to have scripture really unfold within us…listen to the words again…the 14th of John, “You heard me say to you, ‘I go away, and I will come to you.’ If you loved me, you would have rejoiced because I go to the Father; for the Father is greater than I” . That’s seems a contradiction, I and my Father are one, but it’s not a contradiction. In this audience tonight there are three to whom I said it, and they did rejoice. They fulfilled scripture. “I have said to you, ‘I go away, and I will come to you’”…unless I go away I cannot come to you. If you loved me, you would have rejoiced in the depth of your soul. You had to come, therefore, you had to rejoice at the good news of my becoming invisible to you. But I cannot leave you. Becoming invisible certainly is not leaving you—I am nearer now—because I can never leave if I am he. And Christ can never leave us, therefore he cannot return. I told you who I am, therefore, when I do come you will know I told you the truth because you’ll know that you are he. I tell you I am the Father, and I told you the Father dwells in me and I dwell in you and you dwell in me. So when I do come, although I never left you, you will find me within you as yourself, the Father. And this is the unity of our being…there is no other.433 ¶11

So here, in this wonderful world, you take what I told you earlier and put it to the extreme test in this world of Caesar. There is no limit imposed upon this law, none whatsoever. You don’t have to have this sort of background or that sort of background. Simply believe it, that you can stand on anything in this world, a dump, and say to yourself, “I remember when it was a dump.” Well, that right away implies it is no longer a dump, and you build in your mind’s eye exactly what you want to replace what it was, and see it in your mind’s eye as done. Do it in a constructive way. But I must warn you, you can do it destructively. You can take a business that belongs to another and tear it down. People do it. They don’t know it; they do it unwittingly.433 ¶12

Three years ago in Barbados I said to my brother quite innocently and kiddingly, I said, “How is that business doing?” We own a third of it. He said, “It’s doing remarkably well, we’re doing remarkably well, good management, and one who has two-thirds of the business is a good man, honest man, and he’s doing a whale of a job here in the supermarket.” I said, “Are you satisfied?” “Oh yes, I’m satisfied. He’s doing a marvelous job, a good manager, but it’s our business.” He said it quite innocently. My brother Victor, who lived this law, said, “It’s our business.” And so six months ago—I haven’t heard it officially from home, but I got it in the paper—the man who owned the two-thirds asked him to buy him out. He said, “I’m young and only in my thirties and the supermarket the hours are too long, it’s too much of a burden, the money is good, but I want to go into construction, so that when the sun goes down I’m through…and long before the sun goes down I am through. And so we need buildings in Barbados, tourists are coming in, and I see the trend. We need it…hotels, private homes for people coming in for the winter months. And I would like to pull out.” So he bought him out. My brother set the whole thing in motion, didn’t want any partners—set him up in business, gave him two-thirds, and then after ten most successful years he volunteered. No one asked him to sell. So when you offer…you do not often get what you want when you have to sell. That is part of this world of Caesar, and that’s how my brother operates.433 ¶13

So he has done it consciously, but not by revelation…unless my father told him, because my father did it. He stood one day in a huge place, for little Barbados a huge place, he looked out to sea and said to my brother, “You know, Vic, this is an ideal place for buildings, lovely homes and hotels.” It was owned by three sisters, three spinsters, and he just turned to them quite idly and said, “When you want to sell, let me make an offer.” They smiled and said, “Yes, Mr. Goddard.” Well, two died, the third one found it too burdensome to continue. It represented something like fifty acres overlooking the beach. The one who really wanted it, hungrily, happened to be in Brazil the day of the sale and my father bought it.433 ¶14

It seemed to be an idle thought, but it wasn’t idle. If you’re intense, it only takes a second…just one moment of intensity. I can put on a little flame on a pot of water, all day long it still isn’t going to boil….but let me turn it up with an intense flame. He was intense about this just as in my vision the grandfather was intense. He was so intense that he could in words build a picture so vividly that those who listened to him saw in their mind’s eye what he was describing in words, as though the thing were objective to them.433 ¶15

So the key is this, as I stand upon anything in this world, good, bad or indifferent, and it’s not what I want, I want to move to another state, well then, how do I move? Well, “I remember when it was…” or I remember when he was in a certain state. If I remember when he was, then I am saying it isn’t so now. Now, in my mind’s eye…I am building up in my mind’s eye what I want him to be as though it is now present objective fact. Now remain faithful to this imaginal act and the imaginal act will become crystallized in a way that you do not know at the moment. But you will find yourself moving across a series of events leading up to the fulfillment of this state. How it works? I can’t tell you how it’s going to unfold, but it does unfold that way. So you simply remember when he wasn’t well, or she wasn’t well, but now she is well. I remember when she wasn’t so-and-so, but now she is so-and-so. And you go through life this way.433 ¶16

Haven’t you heard it from people in all walks of life, “Well, who does he think he is? I knew him when.” Well now, when they can say that you find a little jealousy in the tone. Because if you remember when he wasn’t anyone, you are now recognizing that he is. And your recognition with your intensity, even of dislike, will push him all the higher. He’ll go higher in the world and you’ll recognize it, too, by your “remembering when” with intensity.433 ¶17

And so, this is something revealed to me many years ago. And the mere fact that I returned to bed and re-dreamed the dream affirmed it and made it principle, the principle. You can’t rub out principle. This is something that everyone can prove.433 ¶18

So I ask you to try it. You know what you want? Now compare it to what you are, and if what you are differs, you want to move from what you are to what you would like to be. Now that is that great motion.433 ¶19

So my friend Bob two years ago had this marvelous experience. “Then how long have I been here?” I said, “Two years”—which is conflict—“through the conflict you were here.” “Did I learn anything?” “Yes, you learned how to move.” The greatest secret of all creation: How to move. So I move relative to something; where if I do not have a frame of reference, I have no knowledge that I’ve moved. So I must have a frame of reference. “I remember when…” that’s the frame of reference. I’ll take all my friends who remember me when…now let them see me when. Then in my mind’s eye move by assuming that I am now what they have never known me to be. I assume that I am it, and then take the same frame of reference and see the expression on their faces. Those who love me would empathize with me, rejoice with me, and those who envy me would show it on their faces. Well then, let them show it. “Let the filthy be filthy still,” that’s what you’re told in scripture…the end of Revelation. Don’t try to change them. If they’d envy you, then let them envy you. That becomes a resisting force against which you move, move out. A bird couldn’t fly without resistance; I couldn’t leave the platform without resistance; you couldn’t drive a car without resistance. So if they want to be that resisting power let them be.433 ¶20

So you take everyone that you know in your present circle and you now see what they believe you to be. Well now, you don’t want that any longer, and you dare to assume you are the one that you really want to be. Use this frame of reference, because you must have a frame of reference against which you move. Look at the same friends and see different expressions; same people but you see them from different angles. Now they’re looking at you and they’re seeing and hearing from you as they never saw you before or heard of you before. That is a change relative to that…just like the empty lot as against the lot that is now bearing a huge wonderful structure.433 ¶21

So this is what was told me so vividly. If he talks to me through the medium of vision and medium of dream, is there anything more important to listen to? Is there any program on our radios, TVs or headlines in papers comparable to the revelation that comes from the depth of your own soul giving you an eternal principle of creation? Nothing in this world is equal to it.433 ¶22

Tonight they are all vying on this level trying to find out where to catch him, because he said something that contradicted what he said yesterday, and then they’ll show it tomorrow night. Those who are now candidates are all looking for little angles to find where he tripped himself up yesterday, and then they’ll come out tomorrow night on the different programs and each is vying on this level. When the [...] is to go to the end. I, personally, wonder why anyone wants the job anyway, but they do and so let them have it. They are all for us to be taking if we really want them.433 ¶23

But you seek first the kingdom of God, and all things will be added. All will be here.433 ¶24

So here, do not let anyone tell you that he’s ever left you. They say he’s going to come again; he can’t possibly return because he never left us. Christ never left man, because Christ is man’s own wonderful human Imagination…that is Christ. There never was another Christ and never will be another. So any Christ other than he who was crucified within us is a false Christ. He is crucified within us, all of us, and he wakens in one, in two, in three, eventually in all; and gathers all together into himself. “One body, one Spirit, one Lord, one God and Father of all” . That’s the great mystery; how he does it. I tell you, I know from experience that’s how he does it, only one body, and yet you do not lose your identity. No loss of identity and yet one body, one Spirit, one Lord, one God and Father433 ¶25

Now, a friend of mine writes me this letter. She said, “I have no consciousness of a dream whatsoever, none. I woke in the morning and on my note pad I saw the words ‘Neville, surgeon, operation,’ and remembering our friend Marta who had that similar experience she wondered if it could be the same thing. Let me tell you, yes, it is the same thing, the identical thing, and your dream that followed confirms it.”433 ¶26

The dream that followed was this, she found herself in the sea and there was a pole driven into the sea. The water would surge and she knew that she had to hold that pole driven into the sea as it surged toward her and raged around. So she held it with the right hand and went around and around it. The pole seemed to have grooves, like a screw. A friend of hers, who has with her in the water, said to her, “You only have to go around two times more.” And here would come the sea, the surging sea, and she would hold the pole and around it she would go. Then she said, “You have to make your own rules. Now we can go.” So they left the sea, she took the pole with her, and took it to her home. When she got there, she left it in the home and went out into the back. Now, what she saw is irrelevant to the dream like the buildings of Chicago and so on…that’s irrelevant, all part of the structure of God within her building a drama. Then she turned and she sees a little child in a bubble bath. She goes over and she picks him up. She uses the masculine pronoun, “she picks him up.” And as she held him in her hands, a girl entered and said, “His father’s name is Robert.” Then she woke. “Well, what on earth can this mean if anything? Could it have any significance?” It has tremendous significance.433 ¶27

In the 10th chapter of the Book of Isaiah, “And his rod will be over the sea and he will lift it as he lifted it in Egypt” . When the rod is lifted up in Egypt, the serpent goes up, and it has to go up the roots, just like a serpent climbing. Now go forward just a few verses into the first verse of the 11th chapter, “And there shall come forth a rod out of Jesse, and a branch will grow out of his stem: And the Spirit of the Lord shall rest upon him.” Well, these are the words, although quoted from the 61st of Isaiah, these are the first words spoken of Christ Jesus when he begins his ministry in the Book of Luke: “And the Spirit of the Lord God is upon me.” So he’s identifying with the rod…so the Father of the child is the creative power of God, the rod Jesus Christ. For there’s no other Father, really…there can’t be any other Father. So I would say to you, yes, my dear. The same thing that happened to Marta has happened to you, and you had confirmation with this rod—“And his rod will be over the sea.”433 ¶28

You look up the word rod, instead of what you did look it up. You will find it has many definitions. First of all, it’s for chastening—“I will raise up your son from out of your body…and he shall be my son, and I will be his father. If he commits iniquities, I will chasten him with a rod” . So it’s used for chastening, too. On the other hand, it’s “a scepter of the ruler.” It is also a “walking staff, like the shepherd’s staff”. It is also a “substance of life as bread”—“I am the bread of life” . So, all these belong to the rod. And so you were in the sea…and his rod was over the sea, and then he will lift it up as he did in Egypt. You lifted it up over the sea, and walked home with it. And all the grooves are on it, so therefore this is an adumbration, a forecasting of what is in store for you.433 ¶29

Some are having physical and emotional problems. May tell you, as I told a friend tonight, no one ever promised you that in labor, when you’re bringing forth the greatest thing in the world, everything is going to be easy…don’t expect it. There will be problems…certainly, problems, horrible problems. But, as we’re told in the 16th of John: “When a woman is in travail, she has sorrow; but when the time of delivery is upon her, she forgets everything because of the joy that a child was born” . The child to be born is Christ Jesus, the creative power of God.433 ¶30

So I am not saying to anyone that I can promise you complete easiness [...]. I can give you the law to cushion all kinds of blows, but things are going to happen. You’ll find psychic experiences, mystical experiences, all kinds of things. But, now you have the law. You’re told in scripture, “Whatever you desire, believe you have received it, and you will” . That’s the law. It won’t fail you and there is no limit placed upon the power of belief. What I told you tonight, add to it to augment it. There’s no limit placed upon that. You can stand upon any dump, any size dump, or any fixed structure and do the same in reverse. So it’s entirely up to us how we use these revealed laws of God.433 ¶31

But to tell me that you’re going to conceive the greatest thing in this world, which is the birth of God; for Christ is God, and when you come forth as Christ it is the birth of God…and to tell you the birth is easy? As Blake said, “I’ve traveled through a world of men, a world of men and women too, and heard and saw such dreadful things as cold earth wanderers never knew. For there the Babe is born in joy that was begotten in dire woe; just as we reap in joy the fruit which we in bitter tears did sow.” He was telling exactly what he saw as he traveled through the world of men and women too. When he comes to the end of that marvelous mental journey—for he calls it the Mental Traveller—he ends it on a lovely note that everything is done as I have told. He doesn’t leave anything out…it’s done just as I have told you. For everyone is going to experience it.433 ¶32

And so the birth when it takes place, certainly, you have these peculiar strange things and you think you’re going off your head. But you aren’t going out of your head at all. If I could have shared last night’s experience of mine with all the psychiatrists of the world, they’d say he’s mentally unbalanced, and yet here I’m in complete control of what I’m doing. I go in and out in a split second, know exactly what I’m doing, go right back in contact with the same fellow, do all the things, and they’re living a life just like here; those who are gay and happy here…the same gay and happy ones there, no change whatsoever.433 ¶33

I met a very dear friend of mine who is still on this side in Barbados. He has two perfectly marvelous hotels, a marvelous home, a bachelor, and, well, he’s one of the boys, gay and happy. All those who come home always go to his home. He just loves dropping names, that today Claudette Colbert was here for lunch and Anthony Eden is coming to dinner, and all this nonsense. But he’s a darling, perfectly marvelous fellow. Well, there he was as I’ve never seen him before, but here is the same person. A complete change yet the identical being playing the same part of a gay, light state of his, no change whatsoever, still living on the surface on the cross of [...].433 ¶34

I met them one after the other all through the night, and it was fun until you got tired. You got so tired that you couldn’t even close your eyes. If you close your eyes, back into it you go again. The minute your eyes are closed, right into another world…you aren’t here at all. And so you had to keep your eyes open though you are still sleepy and still tired. So I got up and made myself some tea at five this morning, had a little fruit juice, and then started reading my Bible, because if I closed my eyes I’d go right back into that world. The veil was so thin it just wasn’t even a veil. The lids would close and into it you’d go. And not a thing had died…the same people in the same world, solidly real to that group just like this. My brother Lawrence in his wonderful feeling, “Off to the beach. C’mon join me Nev.” I said, “I didn’t bring my trunks.” He said, “I have other trunks.” I said, “They’re too big for me”…the same thing I would say even if he was much thinner than I am. I would say to him, “Oh, they’re too big for me.” It’s the same dimension, not a thing has changed.433 ¶35

And this could have been prompted by a call from New York City of the parents of the boy who was killed in London and they were beyond themselves, all because they can’t understand why. It could have been my attempt to explain to them that nothing dies that prompted the evening. Larry wasn’t there, but all the others were.433 ¶36

But don’t you forget what I tried to say this night, because it came to me from the depths of my own soul which is God the Father. God the Father is the reality of every being in the world, and he cannot leave you. He’s never left you, therefore, he cannot return. But he does speak from within and when he ever appears, you’re like him. The day will come that he will rise in you and you’ll be like him and he’ll be like you. At that rising in you, all impossibilities will dissolve, because you and he are one, and he is God. So he never left us to go any place.433 ¶37

Listen to the words carefully and you’ll see that he cannot leave us: “I came out from the Father.” Stop it right there. Where is the Father?—in heaven. Where’s heaven?—within . So I came out from within. Within and above are the same in scripture; and without and below are the same in scripture. So “I came out”…now we see he’s a visible being. So “I came into the world. Again I am leaving the world and going”—where—“to the Father,” so I return within . And there’s only one “within.” So where could I go where I would be something that you could see me coming again from without? The next time I come you and I are one…and you will know it. For there’s only one Father and one Son, and my Son is going to call you Father. And you’ll know the truth of what I say now that I am in my Father, my Father is in me, I am in you, and you are in me…we are one.433 ¶38

Now let us go into the Silence. * * *433 ¶39

Q and A

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My dear, because you do not bring them back. That lady that I mentioned tonight did not bring back the dream. The first part preceded the other by a few days and she only saw it on her pad. She’s totally unaware of that moment in time when she wrote the word Neville and the word surgeon, and the word operation. She cannot bring it back. So far she hasn’t brought back, to my knowledge, a dream that could be associated with these three words. But she remembered something that was said here from the platform based upon another experience of a lady who did recall the dream, and the same three experiences; that is, the surgeon who was Neville and the operation on her shoulder. When I explained to this lady what it meant, she wondered if this, even though she didn’t bring back a dream, could have meant something similar or the same. Well, it does.433 ¶41

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What if you don’t have dreams?433 ¶42

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My dear, we all dream. But I’ll tell you how to remember dreams. When you get up in the morning, most of us get right out of bed, I do. But instead of jumping right out of bed you’re thinking something. You might think of a date you have that day, or some idle thought. Nothing is idle in God’s world; therefore, the thought that occupies your mind when you wake is consequent upon a dream. Therefore, dwell upon it and ask yourself, “Why am I thinking this thought?”—the most silly, stupid thought in the world, “Why am I thinking it?” Now, reason will tell you “Because you have to face it today.” No, you dwell upon it and it will take you back on a chain of events that led up to that thought. Then you’ll remember the dream. So dwell upon the thought that occupies the mind as you wake and ask yourself, “Why am I thinking what I am thinking?” and it will take you right back. It won’t take long, a little practice and in a day or two you’ll be going back into a dream that preceded this thought; for that was the last rung in a series of events that brought you from the deep inner vision to outer vision. Because he builds it rapidly—the builder in you is a magician—he builds a series of events in the twinkle of an eye, and leads you across that bridge up to the waking state. Well, the waking state is also an event, a thought that occupies the mind. Then you ask why, why am I thinking…and it takes you back.433 ¶43

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Neville, I’ve wondered if the implantation is the same as the impregnation.433 ¶44

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Yes, same thing.433 ¶45

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And you can calculate thirty years then from that time?433 ¶46

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Impregnation and the…take this, he always used analogies. He said, “Take the fig tree…when you see the leaves come out.” Well, tonight I will take another analogy, take a graft. We call it, well, that which you take from a vine or take from a bush, we call it a graft. Now it had its existence and participated in the life of that from which you took it, didn’t it? You take it now and you engraft it or transplant it, then it becomes in its turn the parent. So he said, “I am the root and the offspring.” David is the whole vast human race personified as a single youth…so I am the root and the offspring of David. I am both the offspring of David and I am also the root of David…that which comes out of David. For he tells David, “I will raise up your son after you who will come forth from your body. I will be his father and he shall be my son” . So, out of humanity comes that which awakens in humanity…in you, in me, in the individual. Now, that is like a graft. So he comes out and then he becomes the Father; he becomes the root and the offspring. So it partakes of the nature of the parent stem when it’s in it, and then you transplant it, and it becomes in its own good turn the parent. So here the Father and the Son are one. He who comes out is called Jesus Christ, and yet David it the Son of the Father. Do you follow it? It’s marvelous. You dwell upon it, the root and the offspring are one: “I am the root and the offspring of David, the bright morning star” . And you take that little thing called a sucker and you take it from its bush, and then although it exists and participates in the life of the plant from which you took it, then you transplant it, and then it becomes in its turn the parent.433 ¶47

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Any other directions given for how to go about seeking the kingdom?433 ¶48

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Well, when you have asked…and the question is…“Your father knows you have need of all these things”—mentioning shelter, raiment, food—“but seek ye first the kingdom of God and all these will be added unto you.” I know from my own experience, if I would give, and I think I do, all my time to the study of his word and the teaching of his word, that my needs will be met. As I told it when I first a few weeks ago explained it here, that although I’m one of a very large family, on the surface of Caesar I gave nothing to my father’s businesses, nothing. I left when I was seventeen in the year 1922, and returned only for vacations and to spend money…but certainly not to help him earn money. But when he made his will, he did not discriminate. He gave me as much as he gave any member of the other nine, he gave us equal shares…and so I shared with all the family. And yet, my whole interest was in the word of God, devoting my entire life to simply studying it, experiencing it, and teaching it. So I really never put myself into the groove as it were to make a lot of money. I have to have money to live…I like to live well…but it was never my concern to make money. So I sought the kingdom and my Father, the depth of my own being who is the kingdom, I’m seeking him. He knows I have to pay rent, buy clothes and have all these things, and so he gave them to me. He gave them to me by influencing my father at that moment of the signing not to listen to any in-law who said Neville didn’t contribute; or to be influenced in any way by any friend who might say, “Now is that fair to the boys who really work hard all through the day and made this as big as it is for all of you today? Remember him in the will but not to the extent you remembered all the others.” My father was deaf to all suggestions and wrote his will in ten equal parts. So I have tangible proof that seeking the kingdom first did not deny me the things of the world. But I’m not going to say to anyone who is not so convinced that it works that way… that they should not apply themselves toward the things of the world. So I teach it and tonight I’ve shared with everyone here exactly what was told me a few years ago concerning a principle by which you can be anything in this world. You can stand on the wildest, most barren state in the world, a desert, and see it blossom as a rose in your mind’s eye and it will. So, someone is unemployed, he’s unwanted, he has no talent, and he’s rejected by society, by everything, but he doesn’t have to accept it. He can stand upon that barren state and then conjure a state, so he can say within himself “I remember when I was…” and he can mention it, implying he’s no longer there. So he’s seeking the kingdom in another way. But yet all these laws of God…because God is in the kingdom, therefore, his laws too. I would not put these things first. When I heard tonight’s report that two men running for a primary…mind you we have fifty states and the next one is in Indiana…and it was said, on what authority I do not know, but both men are spending in excess of two million dollars each to win the primary in Indiana. The job is going to pay them $400,000 for four years, and they’re going to spend that sort of money in one state and we have fifty states. Did you see Interlandia this morning, the cartoonist? It was a marvelous cartoon. It had a huge big background of City Hall, you couldn’t miss it, all the great columns, and then they had four or five or six bodies all shot, all dead bloated politicians, money coming out of all the pockets, monies in their hands, bags of money, money coming out of their ears, and the cop said to the other cop, “Well, Mayor Davies said, ‘Shoot all looters.’” Here they are looting our treasury, so shoot all looters [...] carrying out of an order. Here they’re coming out of City Hall. Well, no one has to be college educated to understand the meaning of that cartoon. He told more in that than you can tell in a book, because that happens to be the opinion that our people hold concerning our politicians. How can you spend two million dollars for a job that will pay you a hundred thousand dollars a year with a guarantee of only four years? And, you’ve no assurance that you’re going to get it, that it’s going to be a chance, one of fifty states. And they both go in as though they’re just out of the tub and clean as all outdoors. Well now, you can tell me a lie, but don’t try to persuade me. You’d be a fool to accept it. Good night.433 ¶49

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